Dalek's AND death??! Yes those two combined once more and this time it CLEARLY meant that it would be a FINAL death to those pesky pepperpots once and for all. With that promise we all gathered around Leigh's to watch this four-parter....
MJ: "Hooray! We're here at, err, Leigh's. It would have been mine but I had to change it to Leigh's. Shaun's a bit hungover."
Shaun: "Yup."
MJ: "Jason and Mark were late."
Jason: "We're not late - you're all early!"
MJ: *Laughs* "Four parter - 'Death To The Daleks'. So this will be it! The FINAL Dalek story ever. They're gonna die!" *Shaun laughs* "Death - that's what it promises!"
Leigh: "It's a shame as they're kind of iconic, aren't they?"
MJ: "They are, but you know -"
Leigh: "- I feel they could have done more with them!"
*MJ laughs*
Mark: "They've done that one story a lot..."
*MJ & Leigh laugh*
Jason: *Reading DVD case* "Oh! It's 'Death TO The Daleks'! I thought it was 'Death Of' as it could be the 'Grim Reaper Of The Daleks'."
Shaun: *Laughing* "It's just a Dalek with a sythe and a cloak!!"
*Laughter*
Leigh: "A sythe instead of a plunger thing!" *Laughs*
Shaun: "Oh I really want to see that now!"
MJ: *Looking at DVD case* "Oh I recognise that guy there!"
Jason: "Which guy? The one at the front?"
MJ: "Yeah I think it's John Abineri - Rimmer's Dad (from the sci-fi sitcom 'Red Dwarf')."
Jason: "He is!"
MJ: "That's what I thought - and I'm sure there's a little alien in this played by, ohhhh..."
Jason: *Joking* "Wil' Wheaton!"
MJ: "Yes, Wil' Wheaton.... We'll see in the titles anyway - it could be John Leeson?" (it isn't - I'll reveal later who it is! Another 'Red Dwarf' connection!)
Shaun: "Let's start!"
MJ: "Let's start! 'Death To The Daleks' - Part One!"
Jason: "Gary Coleman."
MJ: "Gary Coleman?"
Jason: "Yeah."
Shaun: "A very young Jason Statham."
*EPISODE ONE TITLES START*
MJ: "I want to see all of his (Jon Pertwee's) body (in the titles)." *Jon Pertwee's body appears* "Yayyyy! All of his body!"
Jason: "I like the way he fits into the time stream."
Shaun: "Yeah."
Jason: "It's like it was MADE for him!"
MJ: "Try some of Leigh's chocolate crisps - they're confusing!"
Shaun: "Oh you've ruined it!!"
Jason: "Well as I have a mouthful of 'Snickers' it won't make a difference. Also I had some the other day!"
Leigh: *Laughing* "I know, but Mark hasn't tried them!"
MJ: "They confused me!"
Jason: "I had most of the packet the other day! I did!"
Leigh: "They're cocoa and spiced rum!"
Mark: *Eating one* "They're confusing!"
Leigh: *Laughing* "They are!!!"
*On screen a bearded man is running through a quarry*
Jason: "Oh! Have I seen this?"
MJ: "Yeah, he comes up to the camera and says 'It's'... like the other one did!"
Jason: *Laughs* "Oh no it looks very similar to 'Genesis Of the Daleks' I was thinking."
Shaun: "Well, it's Terry Nation so it's probably very similar."
*A man gets shot in the back by an arrow from an unseen person*
Leigh: "Oh, Dalek's have got a bit backwards! They're using arrows now!"
*Shaun and Mark laugh*
MJ: "How do you know it's a Dalek?"
Leigh: "'Cos it's called 'Death To The Daleks'."
MJ: "Well, no, we just saw an arrow?! It could be primitives of the planet."
*On screen Sarah Jane and The Doctor are preparing costume and stuff for the seaside*
Jason: "So they're going to the beach? That won't go wrong."
Shaun: "I wonder if that umbrella's The Master?"
Jason: "The Master's TARDIS."
MJ: "Anyway, Part One."
*EPISODE ONE GETS WATCHED*
Photo 1: At Leigh's house.
Mark, Shaun (with the sign),
MJ (with the DVD case) and Leigh.
MJ: "Well, what do you think of that, Leigh? You look confused!"
Leigh: "That was SH*T!!?!"
Shaun: "That was rubbish."
Leigh: "Why did they have 'Bur-bur-bur' type music when the Daleks came out!? It should have been scarier!" *Laughs*
Shaun: "They moved too quickly, they were wobbly, they didn't look like they had any weight to them and their voices weren't quite right!! Is it (Roy) Skelton back?"
MJ: "I think it's Skelton?"
Shaun: "'Cos we had this weird wrong voices when they first came back - didn't we?"
MJ: *Reading titles* "Oh Michael Wisher!"
Jason: "'Death Wish'!"
Shaun: *Laughing* "No! Let's not make MJ type up a load of stuff about Michael Winner again!!" *Laughter* "Or maybe we SHOULD!"
Jason: "Calm down dear..."
MJ: *Michael Winner impression* "Calm down dear!" *Normal voice* "That was pretty good but, again, it's reveal the Daleks right at the end as the cliff-hanger."
Leigh: "But with inappropriate comedy music!?"
MJ: "Yeah! Bur-bur-bur!!"
Shaun: "Plus, right, okay, they land. The guns aren't working because of the energy drain (that seems to surround the planet). Literally EVERYTHING they do and the way they move is electrically powered!!"
Mark: "I was trying not to point that out."
Jason: "They overcame that since the first serial where they couldn't leave the city because of that reason."
MJ: "No, but that was - they couldn't get the power. They've now got their own power - but everything with power, on THIS planet, seems to get dampened."
Jason: "Yeah - I get that. But they've got power, is all I'm saying."
MJ: "Yeah, they shouldn't have power."
Shaun: "They shouldn't have. I don't think you're recording, MJ?"
MJ: "Yeah."
Shaun: "Alright. Make sure you leave that in!" (Which I have!)
Jason: "Maybe they've got feet. They've got feet, along the bottom, that pushes them along."
Shaun: *Laughing* "With little tendrils?"
Jason: "Yeah!"
MJ: "Part two."
*EPISODE TWO GETS WATCHED*
Photo 2: At Leigh's house.
Mark (with the DVD case), Shaun,
Jason (with the sign and eyes closed) and Leigh.
Jason (with the sign and eyes closed) and Leigh.
*After a finale of long robotic tendril things attacking The Doctor from some water*
MJ: "Snake!! It's a snake!" *Laughs* "It looked a bit like the things that come out of the 'War Of The Worlds' machine."
Leigh: "I was thinking the same thing, yeah."
*MJ makes 'OOOO-LAAAA' noise from 'Jeff Wayne's War Of the Worlds'!*
Jason: "It would have been a better ending if they'd have stopped at the sock puppet guy's face!" *Leigh laughs* "I thought we was going to end on that and that was a really bad ending, 'cos it's quite tense up until that point. I'm glad we had the (ending we did)."
MJ: "I think the next, errr, part I want to -"
Shaun: "- Spoilers!"
MJ: "- I want to start recording before the end, 'cos the cliffhanger's fantastic!" *Laughs*
Jason: "Don't tell us that!" *Laughter* "You could have just recorded it without telling us!! Now I'm expecting something!"
Shaun: "I'm expecting a giant cat again." (as in the William Hartnell story 'Planet Of Giants')
"That was the worst cliffhanger ever!" *Laughter*
"That was the worst cliffhanger ever!" *Laughter*
Mark: *Dryly* "That was amazing."
Leigh: "More Tea?"
MJ: "Yes please! So what happened there? The Irish guy in charge - the Captain -"
Jason: "- I thought he was Scottish?"
Mark: "He was Scottish!"
Leigh: *From kitchen* "He was Scottish!"
Leigh: *From kitchen* "He was Scottish!"
MJ: "Oh! Well he sounds a bit all over the place!"
Jason: "He did sound like George Galloway at one point."
MJ: "Well he's Scottish."
Jason: "Well there you go!"
MJ: "So, basically there's some humans that have come down to the planet and they've lost their power. The Daleks have come down on the planet and they've lost their power."
Mark: "Some of it."
Shaun: "Yes! SOME of it! But they can still move and talk... and the lights on their 'eyes' go... which doesn't make ANY sense!"
Jason: "And now they've fixed their weapons a bit."
Shaun: "Yeah, but to be fair to them, they look like they've now got gunpowder-style launching mechanisms. So that's fine."
Mark: "Yeah."
MJ: "Erm, anyway they've come together against the guys who are in charge of the planet who are - "
Jason: "- Exxilons!"
MJ: "Exxilons. Who are bad - or the ones we've seen so far are priests."
Shaun: "We don't know if they're bad!"
Jason: "They sacrifice people."
Jason: "They sacrifice people."
Shaun: "They have a more primitive society, that doesn't make them bad!"
Leigh: "Sacrifices are never good!!"
*MJ laughs*
Shaun: "Not for the sacrificee!"
MJ: "I think it sort of reminded me of 'Indiana Jones and the Temple Of Doom' - with the chanting. There was lots of 'Kali Ma!' Although not exactly that!"
Jason: "Calamari?"
MJ: "And kettle drums going in the background. Dum-Dum! And wood-wind music - little oboe music!"
Jason: "I thought on, what was probably a very cheap set, it looked effective."
MJ: "Mm."
Jason: "It gave me tension. I was going 'Ooo - what's going to happen?' I thought Sarah Jane did some good acting. Or Elisabeth Sladen."
MJ: "Yeah she did. Yeah, yeah."
Jason: "With not a lot to do really. I think she carried the plot along quite well. With: 'Ooo, what's going to happen? Is it a Minotaur? Is it - " (It SOUNDS like he said 'Pasquale'!)
MJ: "- Yes, they are underneath the catacombs now."
Mark: *Confused at Jason* "Is it a Joe Pasquale?"
Jason: "That would shock me if it came out of nowhere."
Mark: "It would shock anybody I think! Joe Pasquale hanging around in the dark!" *Laughs*
"Chasing women around!"
MJ: "There's a little fella (Bellal), one of the Exxilons, who's going after them. We saw, at the end."
Jason: "Oh yeah. He's not an Exxilon - he's like an ex-Exxilon because he left them! Or maybe they left him and he doesn't like them! I don't know."
MJ: "We don't know, we've just met him."
Jason: "They said so when they left the caves, they said - oh no! I'm assuming he's the other race that they wanna kill."
MJ: "Ahh right, okay."
Jason: "But I'm probably way wrong on that."
MJ: "I don't know."
Jason: "Maybe the twist is the other race are The Daleks!"
*MJ laughs*
Mark: "That would make NO sense!"
MJ: "It's, errr, Keyser Söze! The Daleks have just been reading books on the wall and posters!" *Dalek voice whilst looking at Leigh's bookshelf* "OH YES. WELL I MET THIS GUY AT ERRR... HARRY POTTER. AND WE PLAYED A GAME OF.... THRONES! AND THEN DRANK SOME POP!" *Laughs*
Jason: "For the benefit of the, Mr. Kite, audience, err, we're looking at things in this room."
MJ: "In Leigh's room."
Jason: "Leigh's room."
MJ: "Who's room!?"
Jason: "Leigh's room."
MJ: "Who's room!?"
Jason: "The Morris room."
MJ: *Laughing* "The Morris room - I like that."
Jason: "The Morris Lounge."
MJ: *Reading* "'I was seduced by the Dark Side' - that's one of Leigh's posters."
Jason: "Cthulhu - let's name EVERYTHING on - for the people reading this I'm going to read everything! Type this up MJ!" *Reading* "'Alice In Wonderland', 'Aliens Anthology' -"
Photo 3: At Leigh's house.
Mark (with the DVD case), Shaun (telling Jason to open his eyes!),
Jason (with the sign and eyes STILL closed) and Leigh.
Jason (with the sign and eyes STILL closed) and Leigh.
Shaun: "It's alright. I think the Daleks were a very big let-down and really dragged it down. And this WHOLE thing makes no sense, but when they developed the new weapon, and stuff, they started kicking arse again. So that was fine."
MJ: "Yes, I suppose that's true."
Shaun: "I mean the woman is - I have a feeling that the woman, who's one of the Space Corps (Jill Tarrant played by Joy Harrison), I have a feeling she's done a lot of radio work. 'Cos her voice acting is absolutely spot on - it's just her physical acting - the way she's holding her face and stuff - isn't very good."
MJ: "Yes there's some strange little quirks."
Shaun: "You see she's obviously acted and is quite good at acting with her voice - but not so much physically."
Jason: "Maybe she's usually in a costume."
Shaun: "What's she's normally a monster!?" *Laughs*
MJ: "And the guy - did we say he was Scottish or Irish? What's his name?" (His name was Dan Galloway)
Leigh: *From kitchen* "He's Scottish!"
Jason: "Erm, Mr. Bad-one."
MJ: "Mr. Bad-one! He's the only one who doesn't shave 'cos:" *Irish accent* "he's a rogue!"
MJ: "Didn't he?"
Jason: "No."
MJ: "Oh okay."
Jason: "The young one doesn't need to shave."
Shaun: "Yeah he's too young."
Jason: "And the woman doesn't need to shave!"
MJ: "Have you seen her legs!?" *Laughs* "Like a Wookie's!"
Shaun: "I continue to be incredibly impressed with Sarah Jane."
MJ: "Yes."
Shaun: "She's competent and I like her as an actor so I'm very impressed by her."
Jason: "I was saying, in the other room, that she carried that wandering around a dark corridor very well."
Shaun: "Yeah."
Jason: "That could have been crap. There wasn't much else going on apart from that 'Bom-bom-bom'!"
Shaun: "Yeah the music in this one is either really good and on point or MASSIVELY inappropriate!"
MJ: *Laughing* "Oh yeah!" *Mimics the funny music*
Mark: "I think there's nothing wrong with the Daleks being followed around by a guy with a sousaphone!"
*Laughter*
MJ: "Then there's the little comb-noise - I can't explain - COMB NOISE! MJ DOES COMB NOISE!" *Mark laughs a lot* "Okay we'll pause it there and go on to the rest - bye!"
*EPISODE THREE NEARLY GETS WATCHED, BUT I TURN ON THE RECORDER JUST BEFORE THE CLIFF-HANGER...*
Jason: "There's a door thing."
MJ: "I know. This is getting exciting..."
Shaun: "If that's going to be one of those stupid slide-puzzles, I hate them! They always annoyed me as a kid!"
MJ: "I think we're coming up to the end."
*THE CLIFF-HANGER PLAYS OF THE DOCTOR SAYING 'STOP DON'T MOVE' TO BELLAL AS THEY ARRIVE AT A RATHER SNAZZY PATTERNED FLOOR!*
*Laughter*
MJ: "Stop don't move!!" *Gasps*
Leigh: "It's a floor!!"
MJ: "There's a floor!"
Jason: "It's a picnic blanket!
MJ: "I watched an extra on one of these DVD's, before I'd seen this story, that talked about all the cliffhangers, and that was one of them. The most bizarre cliffhanger ever!" *Laughs* "'Stop don't move!!' And the children, at the time, would have to wait a whole week to think 'What does the floor mean!??'"
*Laughter*
Jason: "To be fair, for three episode it;s all been greys and rocky and stuff. THAT was colourful. That was out of place."
MJ: "Yes. Terrifying patterned floor."
Jason: "It did it for me! I can't sleep tonight!" *Laughter* "Unless I watch the next part before!"
MJ: "Let's watch it."
Jason: "Let's pretend."
MJ: "Do you like that one? They're in a maze now! They're solving puzzles."
Jason: "The Crystal Maze!"
Leigh: *Dead-pan* "It's a-maze-ing."
MJ: "They're on Crystal Meth."
Leigh: "Did you see what I did there? I said 'A-MAZE-ing."
MJ: "Leigh's explaining."
Leigh: "It's got the word 'Maze' in!"
*Laughter*
*EPISODE FOUR TITLES START*
Jason: "Quiet! It's coming back on again! 'Death To The Daleks' Part Four!"
MJ: "By Terry Nation!"
Leigh: "It's a-maze-ing!"
Jason: "It's a slightly different story from Terry Nation."
MJ: "Yeah he's not had a patterned floor before."
*Leigh laughs*
Mark: "This is at least different to other Terry Nation's."
*CLIFFHANGER PLAYS OUT WITH THE DOCTOR SAYING 'IT'S JUST ANOTHER TEST'*
MJ: "Oh so there you go!"
*Leigh laughs*
Jason: "If you turn the pattern it looks like a Swastika."
MJ: "Okay - Part Four."
*EPISODE FOUR GETS WATCHED*
Photo 4: At Leigh's house.
Mark (laughing with the DVD case) as Shaun and Leigh
show Jason (with the sign and eyes now open)how to keep his eyes open!
show Jason (with the sign and eyes now open)how to keep his eyes open!
MJ: "There's only six hundred and ninety-nine wonders of the known universe now! Seen as the city of Exxilon has melted at the end! And Galloway sacrificed his life - the Irish/Scottish man -"
Leigh: *Laughing* "- He's Scottish!!"
*Laughter*
MJ: "- By blowing up the Daleks on their ship. And the other Earth crew got their, Perrilium, was it?" (actually 'Parrinium')
Jason: "I don't know, I was saying 'Perineum'!"
Mark: "Perennials."
Leigh: "Perennials, yeah!"
Mark: *Laughing* "Seasonal perennials for the garden!"
Jason: *Reading credits* "Barry Letts, Terrance Dicks."
MJ: "Does....he...? So that was the 'Death To The Daleks'."
Jason: "Some Daleks died."
Mark: "They all died, 'cos they blew up their ship!"
Jason: "That's not ALL the Daleks ever!"
Mark: "That's all the Daleks on that planet."
MJ: Yeah."
Jason: "They weren't even on the planet of the Daleks! Well, some of them were, but they died of being stressed-out! 'Oh no I've f**ked up!'"
MJ: "Yeah that was strange! One Dalek decided 'Oh no I've failed! I'd better destroy myself!' I've never seen that happen before!" *Leigh chuckles* "I've seen them get hissy! But to kill yourself because you let somebody go?" (Jo had escaped whilst it was supposed to be guarding her)
Jason: "Don't judge him!"
*Leigh chuckles*
MJ: "No I feel I must."
Jason: "It's his own sense of well-being."
Mark: "I think, by that point, Terry Nation just didn't care any more. 'Urgh, I've got to kill one - nurr!'"
Jason: "I don't know how I felt about that. I quite liked some of it but it was just there. I've got no real fault with it."
MJ: "There's probably lots of bits in it - "
Shaun: "- Well then you'll probably give it a medium score, as you always do, of eight!"
Jason: *Laughing* "No, I've gone down - "
Shaun: *Laughing* "A perfectly average score of eight!!"
Jason: "No I've I - I'll come to that at the end! Seven point nine!"
*Shaun laughs*
MJ: "I know what you mean. There were lots of nice in it, but overall it was a bit 'Huh'?"
Leigh: "The Daleks were superfluous. What was the point of them being there?"
Mark: "They went to get the Perennials -"
Leigh: "- No I understand that but the whole plot could have happened without the Daleks there! The Daleks weren't integral to it at all!"
Jason: "They never are in any story!"
*Leigh laughs*
MJ: "They're just there to dick about and annoy people!" *Laughs*
Jason: "Well, if they'd NOT been there..."
MJ: "Then it would have been 'Death To No-One'!"
Jason: "Well, the title would be very different - yes." *Leigh laughs* "Errr, I suppose they just have to take on the city themselves."
Leigh: "'Cos, like, by Episode Three, the other people, that weren't the white ones that were the good guys, completely disappeared and didn't appear in it really."
Shaun: "Mmm."
Mark: "Yeah, but that was because the Daleks killed them all."
*Leigh laughs*
Jason: "Also if you're setting up a security system for a sentient city - they should probably just invest more in electric fences and bars and things - instead of games."
MJ: "Yeah!"
Jason: "Because then, you know, why do more than one!? Just do one REALLY good game that's hard to beat - like Spot The Difference - and there's no difference!"
*Laughter*
*Laughter*
MJ: "And they had two Antibody men, which didn't really do much. They just walked a bit slowly going 'Urrrrr'!"
Jason: "They fought the Daleks and the Daleks fought them back!"
Jason: "They fought the Daleks and the Daleks fought them back!"
MJ: "Wouldn't a laser had been better?"
Shaun: *Impression of Austin Power's Doctor Evil* "A frickin' laser!" *Normal voice* "Yeah, what about one of those root-things?"
MJ: "Yeah yeah."
Shaun: "That would have been fine."
MJ: "Yeah, anything."
Leigh: "Yeah that kind of just disappeared as well."
Jason: "That's what they do in 'Doctor Who'. They use a thing for one episode and then they throw a coat over it -" *Laughter* "- and that's it!"
Shaun: *Laughing* "Stupid giant fly!"
Jason: "Just going back to that - in the very first Dalek episode there was a bit of that. They were defeated by a coat."
Mark & Shaun: "Yeah."
MJ: "Oh, on the floor. And they (the Dalek) went on the coat and, as it was powered by static electricity (from the floor) it couldn't go through the coat."
Jason: "The coat is the ultimate weapon."
MJ: "Yes indeed."
Shaun: "And adding to that, what Leigh was saying about the Daleks being superfluous, they also blew a hole in the entire premise of it. That being: oh dear, this takes away electrical power of everything and the Daleks are mostly fine! They just can't fire their gun! It just doesn't make any sense."
MJ: "Mmm. I can't remember why that was?"
Mark: "Because they are partly biological inside."
MJ: "Partly biological? Right."
Shaun: "Which doesn't work as PARTLY is the case! The electrical parts would have been: the ability to move. Their 'eyes' lighting up. Speech. That shouldn't have worked."
MJ: "I think that if we can get over the fact that there's an old man who flies in a box through time..."
*Leigh laughs*
Shaun: "No, no, that's b*llocks! If you set up the very basic premise that electrical things don't work, don't put in your electric-based f**king bad guys!!" *Laughter* "Especially as they are, as Leigh says, superfluous to the plot!"
MJ: "Yeah. I wonder if it was written and they thought 'Ooo! Daleks would work in that! Well, they wouldn't! But... Daleks!'"
*Laughter*
Jason: "Death to them as well! Death to these Daleks!"
MJ: "It makes a good title! If nothing else."
Leigh: "Yeah, but it doesn't work for the story!"
Jason: "Also it doesn't make a good title if your first cliffhanger is an introduction to the Daleks."
Leigh: "With oompa-music!"
*MJ laughs*
Shaun: "Yes, terrible music."
MJ: *Singing* "Oom-pa-pa, oom-pa-pa that's how it goes!" *Not singing* "And yet I still enjoyed it!" *Laughs*
Jason: "I enjoyed it - mainly because it was four parts!" *Leigh laughs* "But I was expecting, when I thought there were more parts, I expected it to take a twist and there be more stuff going on."
MJ: "Yeah you did say 'What part is this?' and we told you and you were like (surprised) 'Oh?' and I was like thinking 'Oh yeah! There's not much time (to conclude the serial)."
Jason: "Usually that's like a middle episode where we were at, at that point." *Leigh laughs* "We were on our WAY to somewhere. They tied it up very quickly."
Mark: "I'm glad we weren't midway..."
Shaun: "Yes!"
Leigh laughs*
Mark: "We were going nowhere with this."
Jason: "Quite often the stories will take a huge detour - 'Oh this thing'!"
MJ: "What about the character - did you like the little fella (Bellal), that was helping The Doctor? The grey..."
Jason: "Yes! He should be in it next episode!"
Shaun: "Yeah I liked most of the characters. We were discussing outside the woman, from the Space Corps, has been doing voice acting or something - 'cos her voice acting was great, but her actual physical acting was not. She might have been in 'The Archers' for twenty years and they said 'Oh we'll put you on camera as you're quite cute' and her fact just went 'bleh-eh'!"
MJ: *Laughs* "And Sarah was good as always."
Shaun: "Excellent!"
Jason: "Yeah, believable. Well, kind of - you know. As much as you can be!"
Shaun: "I'm becoming a fan."
MJ: "And what about the guy who I can't ever get if he's Scottish or Irish? But you tell me he's Scottish!"
Jason: "What, Patrick o' Irishman?" *Leigh and Shaun laugh* "Paddy o' -"
MJ: "- George Galloway."
Shaun: "Potato o' Sinn Féin."
Jason: "Paddy o' George Galloway, yeah! He was, err, you know, not evil. He was just a bloke."
MJ: "He was just a bloke wanting to get on with things. But he sacrificed himself at the end - so that means he's alright."
Jason: "Maybe he didn't realise that was sacrificing. Maybe he thought 'I'll be alright'."
Shaun: *Laughs* "I'll be fine! The guy, like, made a deal of 'the other guy needs to be in charge - you're only in it for the glory'. But we'd not really seen any hints of that up to that point and then he ultimately sacrificed himself at the end. Maybe the original Captain just completely misjudged him!"
MJ: "Yeah. Yeah."
Jason: "I would like to see an extra episode -"
Shaun: "- I wouldn't!"
Jason: "- Just so the Daleks could discover the sand and go 'Oh no, sand', as it drained out."
*Leigh laughs*
MJ: "Oh yes, 'cos they loaded up the space ship at the end with sand (The Daleks had been tricked into thinking it was sacks of parrinium they were loading on board, but it had been swapped with sand)."
Leigh: *Laughing* "What you think that needed an entire episode!!?"
Jason: "No but, if it was today, there would be a little extra web-cast thing with that on it."
MJ: "Webisode."
Jason: "Webisode. The Web Planet!"
Shaun: "No hang on, Jason is right because they could have gone 'Oh no sand' and then explained the thing, from the first episode where they showed up, saying 'We have a secret need for this'."
Leigh: "Oh no, their secret need was explained."
Mark: "It was explained, yeah."
Jason: "Yeah."
Leigh: "They were just going to keep it and then extort money and power from other races."
Shaun: "Ohh fair enough!"
Jason: "Against The Daleks."
Leigh: "Yeah."
Shaun: "Obviously I didn't pick up on that."
MJ: *Confused* "What, the sand?"
Jason: "No, not the sand!"
MJ: "It makes a good title! If nothing else."
Leigh: "Yeah, but it doesn't work for the story!"
Jason: "Also it doesn't make a good title if your first cliffhanger is an introduction to the Daleks."
Leigh: "With oompa-music!"
*MJ laughs*
Shaun: "Yes, terrible music."
MJ: *Singing* "Oom-pa-pa, oom-pa-pa that's how it goes!" *Not singing* "And yet I still enjoyed it!" *Laughs*
Jason: "I enjoyed it - mainly because it was four parts!" *Leigh laughs* "But I was expecting, when I thought there were more parts, I expected it to take a twist and there be more stuff going on."
MJ: "Yeah you did say 'What part is this?' and we told you and you were like (surprised) 'Oh?' and I was like thinking 'Oh yeah! There's not much time (to conclude the serial)."
Jason: "Usually that's like a middle episode where we were at, at that point." *Leigh laughs* "We were on our WAY to somewhere. They tied it up very quickly."
Mark: "I'm glad we weren't midway..."
Shaun: "Yes!"
Leigh laughs*
Mark: "We were going nowhere with this."
Jason: "Quite often the stories will take a huge detour - 'Oh this thing'!"
Photo 5: At Leigh's house.
Slightly blurry photo of Mark (with the DVD case)
being STARED at by Shaun,
Jason (with the sign) and Leigh
being STARED at by Shaun,
Jason (with the sign) and Leigh
MJ: "What about the character - did you like the little fella (Bellal), that was helping The Doctor? The grey..."
Jason: "Yes! He should be in it next episode!"
Shaun: "Yeah I liked most of the characters. We were discussing outside the woman, from the Space Corps, has been doing voice acting or something - 'cos her voice acting was great, but her actual physical acting was not. She might have been in 'The Archers' for twenty years and they said 'Oh we'll put you on camera as you're quite cute' and her fact just went 'bleh-eh'!"
MJ: *Laughs* "And Sarah was good as always."
Shaun: "Excellent!"
Jason: "Yeah, believable. Well, kind of - you know. As much as you can be!"
Shaun: "I'm becoming a fan."
MJ: "And what about the guy who I can't ever get if he's Scottish or Irish? But you tell me he's Scottish!"
Jason: "What, Patrick o' Irishman?" *Leigh and Shaun laugh* "Paddy o' -"
MJ: "- George Galloway."
Shaun: "Potato o' Sinn Féin."
Jason: "Paddy o' George Galloway, yeah! He was, err, you know, not evil. He was just a bloke."
MJ: "He was just a bloke wanting to get on with things. But he sacrificed himself at the end - so that means he's alright."
Jason: "Maybe he didn't realise that was sacrificing. Maybe he thought 'I'll be alright'."
Shaun: *Laughs* "I'll be fine! The guy, like, made a deal of 'the other guy needs to be in charge - you're only in it for the glory'. But we'd not really seen any hints of that up to that point and then he ultimately sacrificed himself at the end. Maybe the original Captain just completely misjudged him!"
MJ: "Yeah. Yeah."
Jason: "I would like to see an extra episode -"
Shaun: "- I wouldn't!"
Jason: "- Just so the Daleks could discover the sand and go 'Oh no, sand', as it drained out."
*Leigh laughs*
MJ: "Oh yes, 'cos they loaded up the space ship at the end with sand (The Daleks had been tricked into thinking it was sacks of parrinium they were loading on board, but it had been swapped with sand)."
Leigh: *Laughing* "What you think that needed an entire episode!!?"
Jason: "No but, if it was today, there would be a little extra web-cast thing with that on it."
MJ: "Webisode."
Jason: "Webisode. The Web Planet!"
Shaun: "No hang on, Jason is right because they could have gone 'Oh no sand' and then explained the thing, from the first episode where they showed up, saying 'We have a secret need for this'."
Leigh: "Oh no, their secret need was explained."
Mark: "It was explained, yeah."
Jason: "Yeah."
Leigh: "They were just going to keep it and then extort money and power from other races."
Shaun: "Ohh fair enough!"
Jason: "Against The Daleks."
Leigh: "Yeah."
Shaun: "Obviously I didn't pick up on that."
MJ: *Confused* "What, the sand?"
Jason: "No, not the sand!"
Leigh: *Exasperated* "They didn't know they HAD sand, did they?!? They thought they had
Parrinium!"
Jason: *Daleks speaking - without the impression* "So, Sarah Jane, you want a beach do you? Ahhh, well you can't have a beach, we've got all the sand!!" *Shaun laughs* "You'll have to go to Clacton!"
Parrinium!"
Jason: *Daleks speaking - without the impression* "So, Sarah Jane, you want a beach do you? Ahhh, well you can't have a beach, we've got all the sand!!" *Shaun laughs* "You'll have to go to Clacton!"
Shaun: "I like the fact that they came back with the Plague Bomb, they've used Plague Bombs before."
MJ: "Yep."
Shaun: "That was quite cool and I also like the term 'Plague Bomb' - that's just quite cool."
Mark: "Yep."
MJ: "I like that it does exactly what it says on the tin." *Dalek voices* "'What does this Plague Bomb do?' 'Well, it blows up and launches out plague! Which is nice'."
Shaun: "It blows up plagues!"
Jason: "Perhaps they misread it as 'Plaque'. If you're going to name a bomb you should make it -"
Shaun: "- Something awesome!"
Jason: "- Or just descriptively."
Shaun: "Atom bomb. Bombs atoms."
Jason: "Stink bomb. Makes a stink."
MJ: "Bath bomb. Put it in your bath and -"
Shaun: "- It blows up your bath."
MJ: *Laughs* "Yep! Blows up your bath!"
*Jason laughs*
Mark: "Didn't they use a Plague Bomb before - wasn't that the big room -"
Shaun: "Yeah, yeah, yeah!"
Mark: "- Which was taking months and months to organise." (I think he means in 'Planet Of The Daleks')
Shaun: "Yes but this was hundreds of years in the future and they've had chance to perfect it and just have it in capsule form. As a suppository."
Mark: "Yeah but the humans said they could get another ship there in a month and mine the entire planet in the time it takes the Daleks to count down AND set the bomb off!"
*Shaun laughs*
Shaun: *Dalek voice* "FIF-TY THOU-SAND BA-JILL-I-ON RELLS!"
Jason: "What was the thing about the Mayans, or whatever it was? Peru, Peruvians?"
Shaun: "Erm, apparently that race (The Exxilons) made the Peruvian temples - the pyramid things."
Jason: "I don't get why you can't explain how an ancient race made stuff. If they made stuff, they made it!"
Mark: "No it was not long after the book was released about the Nazca lines being made by aliens."
MJ: "Oh really!?"
Mark: "That was quite popular in the seventies."
Jason: "Context!"
MJ: "Mark knows stuff!"
Shaun: "Jason."
Jason: "Yes."
Shaun: "Are you going to read 'The Book'?"
Jason: *With crisp in hand* "I thought you was going to say 'Are you going to eat the crisp'!?"
*Laughter*
Shaun: *Shouting* "Jason I can't take the cliffhanger of you holding that crisp any longer! It's right up there with there patterned floors - I just can't stand the suspense!!"
MJ: "Scores!"
Jason: "Oh scores! TEN! No, erm... it wasn't terrible but I'm not going to go, like, three. I'm going to go..."
Shaun: "Look, five is the mid-point of ten."
Jason: "I'd say it was better than...."
Shaun: *Smiling* "He's going for eight! Let's just put down eight!"
Jason: "No, no I'm gonna be - right, this is going to be my new... I'm going to call it a five and this is going to be my new mark against everything in the future. Everything in the future will be based upon this episode."
*Leigh chuckles*
Shaun: "That's fine if you think -"
Jason: "Five!"
MJ: "Five from Jason."
Shaun: "- five, five is right in the middle."
MJ: "And I'm going to go six because I didn't think it was fantastic but I didn't think it was terrible. Again, in the middle but there was enough to make me up it slightly. So yes."
Leigh: "I'm going to go five as well."
MJ: "Five from Leigh."
Leigh: "For the same reasons."
Mark: "Erm, three point two eight."
Shaun: "Wow."
MJ: "Oh! you REALLY didn't like it!"
Mark: "It was a pointless waste of time and none of it made sense!"
*Laughter*
MJ: "Come out and tell us what you think, Mark! Don't hold back!"
*MJ and Mark laugh*
Jason: "Are you talking about just this episode?" (I think he means the whole serial)
*Laughter*
Shaun: "No he's talking about his life in general!"
Mark: "Yeah, life in general!"
Jason: "Don't explode."
*Shaun laughs*
Mark: "No, just that episode." (again I think he means the whole serial)
MJ: "There you go."
Jason: "Shaun!"
Shaun: *Still laughing* "Well, with the exception of the first half of the second episode and that terrible (musical) score, I thought it was fine! I'm going to give it seven point five one eight three four point three nine one!"
MJ: "You can't have another 'point' but that'll do!"
*Leigh laughs*
Shaun: *Smiling* "That extra 'point' was for me enjoying Sarah Jane Smith Parker Jessica Fletcher!"
*Laughter*
Shaun: "Or woman? It's 'Carrie' isn't it?" (This Carey was a guy - now deceased his website say that 'Carey is perhaps best known as the creator of the accidental children’s hit Bananas in Pyjamas'! So there we go!)
Shaun: "Yeah, yeah, yeah!"
Mark: "- Which was taking months and months to organise." (I think he means in 'Planet Of The Daleks')
Shaun: "Yes but this was hundreds of years in the future and they've had chance to perfect it and just have it in capsule form. As a suppository."
Mark: "Yeah but the humans said they could get another ship there in a month and mine the entire planet in the time it takes the Daleks to count down AND set the bomb off!"
*Shaun laughs*
Shaun: *Dalek voice* "FIF-TY THOU-SAND BA-JILL-I-ON RELLS!"
Jason: "What was the thing about the Mayans, or whatever it was? Peru, Peruvians?"
Shaun: "Erm, apparently that race (The Exxilons) made the Peruvian temples - the pyramid things."
Jason: "I don't get why you can't explain how an ancient race made stuff. If they made stuff, they made it!"
Mark: "No it was not long after the book was released about the Nazca lines being made by aliens."
MJ: "Oh really!?"
Mark: "That was quite popular in the seventies."
Jason: "Context!"
MJ: "Mark knows stuff!"
Shaun: "Jason."
Jason: "Yes."
Shaun: "Are you going to read 'The Book'?"
Jason: *With crisp in hand* "I thought you was going to say 'Are you going to eat the crisp'!?"
*Laughter*
Shaun: *Shouting* "Jason I can't take the cliffhanger of you holding that crisp any longer! It's right up there with there patterned floors - I just can't stand the suspense!!"
MJ: "Scores!"
Jason: "Oh scores! TEN! No, erm... it wasn't terrible but I'm not going to go, like, three. I'm going to go..."
Shaun: "Look, five is the mid-point of ten."
Jason: "I'd say it was better than...."
Shaun: *Smiling* "He's going for eight! Let's just put down eight!"
Jason: "No, no I'm gonna be - right, this is going to be my new... I'm going to call it a five and this is going to be my new mark against everything in the future. Everything in the future will be based upon this episode."
*Leigh chuckles*
Shaun: "That's fine if you think -"
Jason: "Five!"
MJ: "Five from Jason."
Shaun: "- five, five is right in the middle."
MJ: "And I'm going to go six because I didn't think it was fantastic but I didn't think it was terrible. Again, in the middle but there was enough to make me up it slightly. So yes."
Leigh: "I'm going to go five as well."
MJ: "Five from Leigh."
Leigh: "For the same reasons."
Mark: "Erm, three point two eight."
Shaun: "Wow."
MJ: "Oh! you REALLY didn't like it!"
Mark: "It was a pointless waste of time and none of it made sense!"
*Laughter*
MJ: "Come out and tell us what you think, Mark! Don't hold back!"
*MJ and Mark laugh*
Jason: "Are you talking about just this episode?" (I think he means the whole serial)
*Laughter*
Shaun: "No he's talking about his life in general!"
Mark: "Yeah, life in general!"
Jason: "Don't explode."
*Shaun laughs*
Mark: "No, just that episode." (again I think he means the whole serial)
MJ: "There you go."
Jason: "Shaun!"
Shaun: *Still laughing* "Well, with the exception of the first half of the second episode and that terrible (musical) score, I thought it was fine! I'm going to give it seven point five one eight three four point three nine one!"
MJ: "You can't have another 'point' but that'll do!"
*Leigh laughs*
Shaun: *Smiling* "That extra 'point' was for me enjoying Sarah Jane Smith Parker Jessica Fletcher!"
*Laughter*
MJ: "Okay, so -"
Shaun: "- No it was very enjoyable!"
Jason: "You just keep adding words!"
Shaun: "I'm trying to get it to half hour!"
MJ: "What does 'The Book' say, Jason?"
Jason: "Ahh I should have been looking for the right page, shouldn't I? While people were waffling."
Leigh: "Yes."
Jason: "Can I read a different one?"
MJ: "No."
Shaun: *Laughing* "Read 'The Curse of Peladon' again and we can do the voice!"
Jason: "We've got 'The Monster Of Peladon' coming up! Ahh, which is the next one!"
MJ: "The next one is 'The Monster' - which I've not seen."
Jason: *Surprised* "Oh! So I'm not doing next week's then? Erm, it says stuff happened." *Reading from 'The Book'* "'Drained of power the TARDIS lands on a barren planet where The Doctor and Sarah are caught in a power-struggle between humans and Daleks.' Dah, dah, dahhhh!"
Shaun: "Nope. That's not right."
Leigh: "Not really, no."
Jason: *Ignores and reads from 'The Book'* "'Filming took place in a quarry at Gallows Hill, Dorset. The four Daleks, one sans operator -' I spotted that!"
*Leigh laughs*
Shaun: "Yep!"
Jason: *Reading from 'The Book'* "'- were re-painted silver to bring them more in-line with their original colour.'"
MJ: "Oh right?"
Jason: "Well, black and white!" *Shaun laughs and Jason carries on reading from 'The Book'** " '- and moved around the quarry on camera dolly tracks. Ten Exxilon costumes were made -'" *Group cheers* "'- from calico and terylene wadding, while their city was a large polystyrene model'."
MJ: "Yeah."
Jason: *Reading from 'The Book'* "'Verdict: Carey Blyton's score is, as you'd expect, awful.'"
*Uproarious group laughter!*
Shaun: "Excellent!"
Jason: *Reading from 'The Book'* "'But, there are some atmospheric model shots and the Exxilons are very creepy. The opening ten minutes are superb. Seven out of ten'."
MJ: "Ohh okay."
Jason: "The opening ten minutes? What happened then?"
MJ: "Well when they were in the fog and mist and stuff."
Leigh: "Walking around in the fog."
Jason: "Oh!"
MJ: "That was quite good."
Jason: "In the big dark room."
Shaun: "We got a few of our 'It's' moments!"
MJ: "So I wonder how many scores this person (Carey Blyton) did for them? Obviously they have a thing about him - the way they say he's 'obviously terrible'?"
*Laughter*
Shaun: "Well, to be fair, we have had some terrible scores. Maybe they were all done by the same person!"
Mark: "I'm guessing it was all that one guy then?"
Shaun: "Or woman? It's 'Carrie' isn't it?" (This Carey was a guy - now deceased his website say that 'Carey is perhaps best known as the creator of the accidental children’s hit Bananas in Pyjamas'! So there we go!)
Jason: "Yeah but you can get male ones."
MJ: "Oh like Cary Grant - that was a guy."
Shaun: "Carey Bateman."
Jason: "Who's Carey Bateman?"
Shaun: "That's for me to know and you to find out!" (I too tried finding out and have no idea!)
Leigh: "Carrie-boo - I moose-type person!"
*Laughter*
MJ: "Carey Bateman - she got in a bath naked with Jack Nicholson in 'About Schmidt'." *Laughs*
Jason: *Laughing* "That's Kathy!"
*Mark chuckles*
Shaun: *Laughing* "I may well have been thinking about Kathy!"
MJ: *Laughing* "Weren't we all?!"
Jason: "I know one of the Bond girls was Carey something or other? Oh there's Carey Mulligan! Oh but then we're trying to name male ones aren't we? Dammit."
MJ: "Oh, was she a Bond girl? Carey Mulligan?"
Jason: "No." (It was Carey Lowell in 'License To Kill')
MJ: "'Cos she's pretty."
Leigh: "Carey-a-Bag."
Shaun: *Laughing* "Carry On Camping!"
Jason: "Well you can be pretty AND a Bond girl! Are you still recording this?"
MJ: "Okay, well that's that. Until next time, bye!!"
Jason: "Bye! Doctor Whooooo - three more minutes before we get to half an hour!"
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Phew well those high jinx and recorded now forever! Until the ape uprising! I write this a couple of days before we watch the last EVER story with Pertwee as the lead! Oooo! So in the meantime here are the scores again:
Which gives us an average of 5.359668782 out of 10!
We're only two stories away from the end so FINALLY I have Photoshopped a NEW image of us all (Sorry Miss Grant! I missed you out!!)!
Okay next time we have a return to Peladon, Alpha Centuri (and Leigh's impression of Alpha Centuri) and Ice Warriors!
So I'd better go! Until then I shall return, yes I shall return....
MJ - 02/03/17
MJ: "Oh, was she a Bond girl? Carey Mulligan?"
Jason: "No." (It was Carey Lowell in 'License To Kill')
MJ: "'Cos she's pretty."
Leigh: "Carey-a-Bag."
Shaun: *Laughing* "Carry On Camping!"
*Leigh laughs*
Jason: "Well you can be pretty AND a Bond girl! Are you still recording this?"
MJ: "Okay, well that's that. Until next time, bye!!"
Jason: "Bye! Doctor Whooooo - three more minutes before we get to half an hour!"
Photo 6: At Leigh's house.
Shaun (hiding behind the sign),
MJ (with the DVD case) and Leigh.
MJ (with the DVD case) and Leigh.
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Phew well those high jinx and recorded now forever! Until the ape uprising! I write this a couple of days before we watch the last EVER story with Pertwee as the lead! Oooo! So in the meantime here are the scores again:
Jason: 5
Leigh: 5
MJ: 6
Mark: 3.28
Shaun: 7.51834391
Which gives us an average of 5.359668782 out of 10!
We're only two stories away from the end so FINALLY I have Photoshopped a NEW image of us all (Sorry Miss Grant! I missed you out!!)!
Above: Us as the final Third Doctor TEAM!
At the back (from left): Leigh (Sgt. Benton), Gavin (Captain Yates),
Jason (As the Brigadier) & Jason as (Sarah Jane Smith).
At the front (from left): Me (The Third Doctor) & SHAUNY-JIM!
At the back (from left): Leigh (Sgt. Benton), Gavin (Captain Yates),
Jason (As the Brigadier) & Jason as (Sarah Jane Smith).
At the front (from left): Me (The Third Doctor) & SHAUNY-JIM!
Okay next time we have a return to Peladon, Alpha Centuri (and Leigh's impression of Alpha Centuri) and Ice Warriors!
So I'd better go! Until then I shall return, yes I shall return....
MJ - 02/03/17
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