Well here we were again on one of the RARE occasions where a story was completely new to me as well - I'd never seen this one before so as we gathered at Mark's (with a Gavin in toe) I looked forward to the yummy treats that this story had to offer....
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MJ: "Here we are at Mark's - Yay... I haven't written the other ones up yet because it's a pain in the bloody arse!"
*Laughter*
Gavin: "Why? Just leave it..."
Leigh: "If you spent less time on Facebook telling people what you're playing on your radio show, you'd have more time to do it!"
MJ: "Well that is trying to draw more people in! I only do that during the time it's on!
*Laughter*
Jason: "It's advertising!"
MJ: "Well, that's trying to draw people into my show - I only do that during the time the show is actually on." (check
me out! My old shows are on https://www.mixcloud.com/djmj2015/ or you
can listen (at time of writing) on Friday Evening's 8-10pm UK time!) "This is ALL relevant to Doctor Who!"
*Laughter*
Shaun: "Well the 'D' in 'DJMJ' stands for 'Doctor' - that's why it's relevant!"
MJ: "And the 'M' stands for...."
Shaun: "The 'J'."
MJ: "Oh the 'J', sorry."
Shaun: "The 'J' stands for 'Jockey'. Or 'Michael James'."
Jason: "'Michael James'? That's weird as his name's 'John'."
MJ: "'Doctorwho' - all one word!"
Shaun: "Yes."
MJ: "'Doctorwho John'."
Shaun: "Yeah but err 'James', erm, is the name of one of the guys that was in Doctor Who once - there's never been a John. At all."
MJ: "Apart from Jon Pertwee."
Shaun: "No, no, even him. His ACTUAL name was Clifford."
Leigh: "The big red dog?"
Shaun: "Yeah." *Laughter* "The big red Dog-tor is who you are!"
*Laughter*
Jason: "There's only one big dog."
Shaun: "Yeah that's why he changed his name to James for the show, loving the show. So..."
MJ: "Yeah you're right. Anyway Jon's spelt 'J O N' so... Although there is John Levene who plays Benton but..."
Shaun: "No, again his real name's Alexander."
Jason: "Shall we go through ALL the Johns that have been in Doctor Who!? Jason picks up book!"
*Laughter*
Jason: "He WAS! From the previous episode 'Planet Of The Daleks'.
MJ: "And John Abineri was Rimmer's Dad and was also in that one a little while ago where he played a General with a moustache - 'Mind Of Evil' was it? I don't know - who knows?" (He was actually in 'The Ambassadors Of Death')
Jason: "Anyone got any more Johns? Elton John!"
MJ: "Elton John was NOT in Doctor Who!"
Jason: "John Thomas!"
MJ: "That's a willy!"
*Laughter*
Jason: "Could have been in Doctor Who!"
MJ: "I'm sure there's been lots of willies in Doctor Who!"
Leigh: "Well we've already had Mark talk about a one-eyed monster! And now we're onto John Thomas!"
Shaun: "What was David Tennant's name? Was he John?"
Jason: "Well there was John Smith. Doctor John Smith."
*Laughter**After more banter including a great comedy gold pun from MJ about combining 'chocolate' and 'tea' to make 'chocolatetea'!...*
MJ: "Well here we are at Mark's. 'Curse Of Peladon' - four-parter. Shaun hung-over, at Mark's. Gav's here. Hooray."
Mark: "Can everyone see the TV okay?"
Jason: "No!"
MJ: "What TV!!?"
Shaun: "I can't now!"
Leigh: "Have you sat down? Are you comfortable? Right can you close the curtains!"
*Laughter*
Mark: "No! 'Cos they're just behind you!"
MJ: *Reading titles that have started* "Brian Hayles - does he?!"
Jason: *Looking at a cliff face and castle on screen* "It's a model or a painting."
MJ: "Shh! It's only a model!"
Mark: "No talking - MJ hasn't seen this one!"
MJ: "Haha! I'll give you a virtual high-five! Okay Episode One - there's a guy walking though corridors - we'll leave it there."
*EPISODE ONE GETS WATCHED*
MJ: "And the 'M' stands for...."
Shaun: "The 'J'."
MJ: "Oh the 'J', sorry."
Shaun: "The 'J' stands for 'Jockey'. Or 'Michael James'."
Jason: "'Michael James'? That's weird as his name's 'John'."
MJ: "'Doctorwho' - all one word!"
Shaun: "Yes."
MJ: "'Doctorwho John'."
Shaun: "Yeah but err 'James', erm, is the name of one of the guys that was in Doctor Who once - there's never been a John. At all."
MJ: "Apart from Jon Pertwee."
Shaun: "No, no, even him. His ACTUAL name was Clifford."
Leigh: "The big red dog?"
Shaun: "Yeah." *Laughter* "The big red Dog-tor is who you are!"
*Laughter*
Jason: "There's only one big dog."
Shaun: "Yeah that's why he changed his name to James for the show, loving the show. So..."
MJ: "Yeah you're right. Anyway Jon's spelt 'J O N' so... Although there is John Levene who plays Benton but..."
Shaun: "No, again his real name's Alexander."
Jason: "Shall we go through ALL the Johns that have been in Doctor Who!? Jason picks up book!"
*Laughter*
MJ: "How are you going to find it!??"
Jason: "There's a glossary of 'Johns'!"
*Laughter*
Shaun: "There isn't! There's a glossary of people whose names are not John!"
Jason: "This is my new band name anyway."
Shaun: "A random page - there's going to be somebody called John."Jason: "Got a Jerome... John Scott Martin! Played Hughes in 'The Green Death'!
MJ: "He was also a Dalek operator or voice or something."Shaun: "There isn't! There's a glossary of people whose names are not John!"
Jason: "This is my new band name anyway."
MJ: "What, 'Glossary Of Johns'? I like it."
Jason: "Alright I'm going to find a John." *Starts flicking through 'The Book'*Shaun: "A random page - there's going to be somebody called John."Jason: "Got a Jerome... John Scott Martin! Played Hughes in 'The Green Death'!
Jason: "He WAS! From the previous episode 'Planet Of The Daleks'.
MJ: "And John Abineri was Rimmer's Dad and was also in that one a little while ago where he played a General with a moustache - 'Mind Of Evil' was it? I don't know - who knows?" (He was actually in 'The Ambassadors Of Death')
Jason: "Anyone got any more Johns? Elton John!"
MJ: "Elton John was NOT in Doctor Who!"
Jason: "John Thomas!"
MJ: "That's a willy!"
*Laughter*
Jason: "Could have been in Doctor Who!"
MJ: "I'm sure there's been lots of willies in Doctor Who!"
Leigh: "Well we've already had Mark talk about a one-eyed monster! And now we're onto John Thomas!"
Shaun: "What was David Tennant's name? Was he John?"
Jason: "Well there was John Smith. Doctor John Smith."
*Laughter**After more banter including a great comedy gold pun from MJ about combining 'chocolate' and 'tea' to make 'chocolatetea'!...*
MJ: "Well here we are at Mark's. 'Curse Of Peladon' - four-parter. Shaun hung-over, at Mark's. Gav's here. Hooray."
Mark: "Can everyone see the TV okay?"
Jason: "No!"
MJ: "What TV!!?"
Shaun: "I can't now!"
Leigh: "Have you sat down? Are you comfortable? Right can you close the curtains!"
*Laughter*
Mark: "No! 'Cos they're just behind you!"
MJ: *Reading titles that have started* "Brian Hayles - does he?!"
Jason: *Looking at a cliff face and castle on screen* "It's a model or a painting."
MJ: "Shh! It's only a model!"
Mark: "No talking - MJ hasn't seen this one!"
MJ: "Haha! I'll give you a virtual high-five! Okay Episode One - there's a guy walking though corridors - we'll leave it there."
*EPISODE ONE GETS WATCHED*
Photo 1: At Mark's house - Gavin,
Shaun, Mark (holding the sign),
Shaun, Mark (holding the sign),
MJ (with the DVD case) & Leigh.
MJ: "That was the end of the first one and the Ice Warriors are back!! The first time we've seen them in colour!"
Mark: "That's true."
Shaun: "'Cos that is by FAR the most interesting thing in this one!"
MJ: "What, not the erm, the errr-"
Shaun: "- Giant penis!!?" *Laughter* "With the little girls voice!!"
MJ: "With the big, one eye? 'Alpha Centuri'?!"
Shaun: "And the alien in the box - where, when they actually showed it properly, you could see the thread attached to it."*Laughter*
MJ: "Constantly spewing gunk in it!" *Laughter* "Yeah that's an interesting character..."
Shaun: "I'm assuming that this where George R.R. Martin got the idea of 'Game Of Thrones' from!"
MJ: "What, not the erm, the errr-"
Shaun: "- Giant penis!!?" *Laughter* "With the little girls voice!!"
MJ: "With the big, one eye? 'Alpha Centuri'?!"
Shaun: "And the alien in the box - where, when they actually showed it properly, you could see the thread attached to it."*Laughter*
MJ: "Constantly spewing gunk in it!" *Laughter* "Yeah that's an interesting character..."
Shaun: "I'm assuming that this where George R.R. Martin got the idea of 'Game Of Thrones' from!"
*Laughter*
Mark: "I assume so."
Shaun: "Yep."
Leigh: "Because of what?"
Shaun: "Because of the heavyweight political meanderings. You've got the boy king there. You know.... I'm imagining, whatever the assistant's name is -"
MJ: "- Jo."
Shaun: "- pretending to be a Princess is going to all Cersei at the end of this."
*Mark and Leigh chuckle* "The Ice Warriors are clearly, you know..."
Leigh: "Green?"
Shaun: *Laughing* "I was GOING to say..."
MJ: "Hold on, you've had a season and a bit and you STILL can't remember Jo's name!?"
Shaun: "Yeah I don't find her very interesting. And I know she's about for bloody ages but I'm STILL slightly bitter that they got rid of the one I liked!! (Liz Shaw) Who, by the way, was in four TV movies, that were spin-offs of Doctor Who, called PROBE I found out the other day."
MJ: "Yes. I believe so, yeah yeah."
Shaun: "That made me very happy. Liz and a PROBE."
MJ: "I believe they were straight to video."
Mark: "I don't need to know WHAT you were searching in Google to find THAT show!" *Laughs*
MJ: *Watching the start of Episode Two* "Oh I didn't realise (King Peladon) had a skirt on!"
Mark: "Yeah that kind of undermines his entire speech at the start once I realised he was wearing a little skirt."
Shaun: "Yeah."
MJ: "King Peladon, played by David Troughton"
Jason: "Oh is THAT David Troughton?!"
MJ: "Yeah."
Jason: "I didn't recognise him!"
MJ: "Okay I'm going to pause it. Part Two..."
*EPISODE TWO GETS WATCHED*
MJ: "So The Doctor's gonna be killed for, err, going into a, err, sacred area. I really laughed when he said 'Holy of Holies' as that's something they say in 'The League of Gentlemen'."
Mark: "Yeah."
Leigh: "And they say 'And' in 'The League of Gentlemen'."
MJ: "They DO say that! Hah!"
Mark: "That's something also something that's said in 'The League of Gentlemen'...."
Jason: "They also say 'Holiest of Holies' in 'Pulp Fiction'."
MJ: "I haven't seen that."
Shaun: "You've seen 'The League of Gentlemen' but you haven't seen 'Pulp Fiction'!?"
MJ: "Yeah?"
Mark: "You've met MJ?..."
Shaun: "Oh yeah."
Mark: "That does seem rather likely."
MJ: "Why would - I mean, they're not similar at all! Why's it?.... 'You can't WATCH 'The League of Gentlemen' without watching 'Pulp Fiction' - it's impossible!!' - it's like saying - "
Shaun: "No, because 'Pulp Fiction' is a cinematic masterpiece and 'The League of Gentlemen' was a pretty-good-for-one-season comedy show!"
MJ: "I'd say THREE! In fact my favourite IS the third season, which was excellent. Anyway I'm enjoying this Doctor Who so far! I've never seen it before."
Shaun: "Yeah it's pretty good."
Mark: "Yeah."
Jason: "They are conveying quite a serious tone and getting away with it remarkably well for what is basically Muppets and -"
Shaun: "- A giant penis!"
*Laughter*
MJ: "We're ignoring the massive penis and the, erm, strange spurting skull and the crap monsters."
Shaun: "I'm tremendously confused to - "
Leigh: *Doing high pitched impression of the 'Giant Penis' character of Alpha Centuri* "I'm also tremendously confused!!"
*Laughter*
Jason: "It sounds like - well there was a Victoria Wood character that sounds just like it! That's why I've been putting it off! I've got it now - thanks Leigh!"
*Laughter*
Shaun: "So the monster in the basement, right, is the ancient prophecy, it's Agethor returned - it's Agatha returned right? (Well it's actually 'Aggedor'!) But that's their God, but also their monster? And it will appear in time or crisis? But it's probably going to turn out to be some kind of suit."
MJ: "Oh yeah! This is Scooby Doo!"
Shaun: "But they said earlier that they have to hunt it and take its fur for their costumes."
MJ: "Ahh. Okay."
Shaun: "Which wouldn't be a time of great cris - I'm thinking too much into this!! I think that's what we've come down to now!"
Jason: "I would like it to be a big murder mystery thing but I thought it was all revealed? It was just that bloke doing it."
Shaun: "No!"
Jason: "Oh okay."
Shaun: "He ran from it when he was taking The Doctor to feed HIM to the monster."
Jason: It was like a pet - it was like, err - "
Shaun: "I'm just going to go with that it's like Ludo from 'Labyrinth'!"
Jason: "- I was thinking more the one from 'The Goonies'!"
MJ: "What, Sloth?"
Jason: "THAT'S the word I was trying for! That's why I kept saying 'Slur', 'Slurr'! I was trying to work out what it was - Sloth, yeah."
MJ: "Erm, it's an interesting idea. They seemed to have turned round what the Ice Warriors are. You're supposed to think that THEY are the bad guys."
Shaun: "Yes, I'm pretty sure genocide will do that to a civilisation!"
Leigh: "Yeah but The Doctor's a bigoted jerk who thinks they're all evil anyway!"
Shaun: "Yeah."
MJ: "Yeah. They can't change..."
Shaun: " 'I've met you guys TWICE - once on Earth and once in space when you was trying to take over the Earth. Now, millions of years later - "
Leigh: "- Or the past."
Mark: "Well, to be fair both times they were trying to kill Earth!"
MJ: "They were. But now they've learnt from their mistakes - a new governments got in. They've voted out Farage and err..." *Laughter* "They don't mind foreigners so much now! It's all good."
Shaun: "I kind of like the idea of an Ice Warrior played by Caroline Lucas."
Leigh: "Why?!?"
MJ: "Who's this, sorry? 'Caroline Lucas'?"
Shaun: "Well if you liken the other one to Nigel Farage - the hateful figure - Caroline Lucas is the MP for the Green Party."
MJ: "Ahhh yes I know - the Aussie."
Shaun: "She'd be a lovely Ice Warrior - she'd be compassionate."
Mark: "You're referencing politics beyond 1970. He has no idea what you're talking about!"
Shaun: "That's a good point. Edward Heath!"
MJ: "Oh yes I know of him!"
Shaun: "So the Ice Warriors in this one then - bringing us back on topic."
MJ: "They're good. There voices don't seem as irritating this time."
Shaun: "No."
Leigh: "I don't know, Zog's voice is pretty irritating!"
MJ: "Oh yeah, yeah. That's the skull in the box isn't it?"
Leigh: "No that's Arcturus. Zog is like the - I think it was Zog? Or something like that! He's the sub-delegate....the one with the gun!"
MJ: "Yeah, yeah. Well they are the Ice Warriors - whereas the others are the Ice Lords, are they? Or something - the ones with the helmets."
Mark: "Yeah."
Shaun: "Oh yeah they gave them another title didn't they?"
MJ: "He was the one last time (in the 'Seeds Of Death') who was angry saying:" *Puts on hissy voice* " 'Do not ask questionsssss!!!' He seemed to be more seething which did get a bit wearing but this one's a bit more err..."
Leigh: "Happy?"
MJ: *Puts on Scouse accent* "'Calm down, calm down - Liverpudlian. Haha!"
Leigh: *Laughing* " 'We only try and put people in comas! We're the good guys!!' "
MJ: "Yeah, c'mon, eh?!"
Shaun: "Well I think his point there was that whoever was doing it didn't have the scientific acumen to kill him."
Leigh: "Oh I thought their point was that they were only trying to put him in a coma."
Shaun: "No the Ice Warriors didn't do it."
Mark: "I think we all took that point, yeah." *Giggles* "If they were trying to kill him they'd have done it better!"
Shaun: "Yeah they knew how too - and that's what they would have done. They're not trying to - they're...the good guys in this!"
MJ: "That's right!"
Leigh: "That's not what The Doctor says!"
MJ: "Well, so far! We don't know!"
Shaun: "Yeah - there could be two plots going on!"
MJ: "Yeah. Errr criss-cross!"
Shaun: "Criss-cross! I don't quite get why they're trying to frame...well they keep saying it's their God that's doing all this, but they're obviously trying to frame the Ice Warriors at the same time."
MJ: "Mmmm."
Shaun: "Which is a bit confusing."
Mark: "They're trying to throw people off the scent."
Shaun: "But the whole point is it's supposed to be THEM doing it!"
Mark: "Because they want the whole thing (the joining in with the Galactic Federation) to fail."
MJ: "They don't want it so they're like 'Well if we make it look like THEY'RE the bad guys (The Ice Warriors), then people won't trust them and then -"
Shaun: "- Yeah but the High Priest came in and said 'This is the work of Agatha! (Aggedor)'. Rather than 'Oh the Ice Warriors probably did that - go check their room!' "
*MJ laughs*
Mark: "Yeah but then he was like the crazy guy - he can't be in charge of anything!"
Shaun: "Which is clearly the case." *Mark giggles* "I mean you have an entire kingdom based on two advisers - and one of them is dead!! It's not going well."
*Mark giggles*
MJ: "Awww his ginger-streaked twin is no more."
Shaun: "The champion can't even talk!"
MJ: "Yeah." *Makes 'mmmmMmmmM' noises* "Yeah the old mute - what was his name?"
Shaun: "He's not mute he's, erm, obviously brain dead."
MJ: "I though he had his tongue cut out or something?"
Shaun: "He might have done!"
MJ: "I wanna see HIS story - his back story!"
Shaun: "Maybe he'll be the new companion!"
MJ: "Haha! Yeah, that won't get wearing..." *Laughs*
Shaun: "No that'd be absolutely fine - I'd love that in every episode!"
MJ: *Going inside house and saying to Leigh* "We like the guy who can't speak - probably had his tongue cut-out - we don't know. Shaun says what about him for the new companion."
Leigh: "That woud be awesome." *Makes 'mmmmMmmmM' noises*
*MJ Laughs*
Leigh: " 'What's that Grunt? You've fallen over!?' "
*Laughter*
MJ: "I think Grunt - I love it! 'Me name's 'David'!"
Shaun: "I think it's 'Grant'! He just had a weirdly normal name."
Jason: "I was going 'Is it Grant or Grunt?' for ages!"
Shaun: " 'The Book' will tell us in the end!
Jason: "I hope so - and I hope the little head in the jar is called Phil."
Shaun: "Hahah! 'Phil'!"
Leigh: "No I think he called 'Acturus' or something?"
MJ: "He's called Phil McCrevice."
*Laughter*
Leigh: "Phil McCrevice."
MJ: "He's Scottish!"
*Laughter*
Leigh: "He hasn't got a crevice to fill!!"
Gavin: "I thought it was Phil McCavity? Or is that his cousin?"
MJ: *Laughing* "Yes that's his cousin! Phil Cool should have been in Doctor Who as he used to pull all those faces!"
Jason: "Was he not in it? He sounds exactly like the sort of person that WOULD have been in eighties Doctor Who!"
MJ: "Yeah, but wasn't. He sued to do impressions of - what was it? From like 'Thunderbirds'? Or 'Stingray' or something?"
Jason: "I don't remember what he did. He pulled faces - that was it!"
Shaun: "I've no idea who you're talking about!!"
Jason: "Imagine MJ - "
Leigh: "I can't!"
MJ: "You don't need to! I'm here!"
Jason: "Imagine him appearing on other comedian's shows - Jasper Carrott or Des O'Conner or something - in the mid-eighties I think."
MJ: "Yeah."
Jason: "His act, in my memory, was basically pulling faces."
MJ: "Yeah it was."
Jason: "It could have been extremely intellectual and political -"
MJ: "No."
Jason: "- But my young mind he plays a man that goes:" *Jason pulls a face and makes a noise*
Shaun: "I must have seen it then, because I watched all the Jasper Carrott stuff."
MJ: "And he had his own thing like - was it 'Stay Cool' or something? It was always 'Cool' in the title."
Jason: "Yes."
MJ: "A bit like 'Take Hart' or 'Hart Beat" - you know, with Tony Hart. Except when he did 'Vision On' - which didn't have 'Hart' in it."
Shaun: "Tony Hart created 'Heartbeat'??"
Jason: "Not the Nick Berry vehicle!"
MJ: *Laughing* "Not the North Yorkshire moors police show!"
Shaun: *Laughing* "I don't remember Morph showing up in the 1960's police show! Was it a police show? I don't remember."
Leigh: "Sort of."
Jason: "Yep!"
Shaun: "It seemed to have a policeman in it a lot? In the few episodes I've seen."
Jason: "Is, erm, Oh I don't know if I need to continue that..."
Shaun: "You definitely DO!"
Jason: "That other show - that I can't think of the name of - is that in the same universe as the 'Heartbeat' universe?"
Leigh: "What show?"
Shaun: "Ballykissangel!"
Jason: "The hospital one in the 60's."
Leigh: "Oh yeah it is. 'The Royal'."
MJ: "Yeah."
Jason: "Alright! That was worth continuing with."
Shaun: "It was."
MJ: "They called it that because of Jim Royale - from 'The Royale Family'.... 'My arse' - that's what he says...."
Shaun: "Hah! He did say 'My arse' a lot! And Caroline Ahearne is now dead."
Leigh: "My arse."
Jason: "Your arse is now dead?"
*Shaun laughs*
MJ: "They'll be no more Mrs Merton. I like it when she said:" *Puts on CRAZED, not even SLIGHTLY like her - Mrs Merton voice* " 'WHY DID YA MARRY THE MILLIONAIRE PAUL DANIELS!!' "
Jason: "That's a terrible impression because I immediately thought you were doing an impression of Paul Daniels!"
Shaun: *Laughing* "Yeah!"
*Leigh laughs*
MJ: "He used to say:" *Puts on high-pitched, non-Paul Daniels voice* "'NOT A LOT!! YOU'LL LIKE THIS MAGIC TRICK, NOT A LOT! I'M ALPHA CENTURI!!'"
*Laughter*
Jason: "I was waiting for that."
*Laughter*
MJ: "Anyway I should pause it there 'cos it's just..."
Shaun: "But we have more VERY relevant Doctor Who conversation to have!"
*Laughter* "We're just getting INTO Paul Daniels!"
Leigh: "I remember Doctor Who!"Mark: "We've had VERY little about Doctor Who."
*Laughter*
Shaun: "Did you know 'Wizbit' is set in the Doctor Who universe!?"
*Laughter*
MJ: "Did you know that Paul Daniels is Helen Daniels Dad!"
*Laughter*
Leigh: *Laughing* "What?? No!!"
Shaun: *Laughing* "Helen Daniels isn't even a real person!!! It's a character!!!"
MJ: *Laughing* "So is Paul Daniels - he was a character!! His real name was Jimmy Smitts!"
Jason: "What!?? From 'L.A. Law'?!"
*Laughter*
Leigh: "Why do you remember 'L.A. Law'?!"
Jason: "I'm pretty sure it was 'L.A. Law'"
MJ: "I don't remember it! I just know the name Jimmy Smitts! Anyway I didn't say it was THAT Jimmy Smitts! It's like John Smith - there's lots of John Smiths...."
*AFTER SOME MORE BABBLE EPISODE THREE GETS WATCHED*
MJ: "So yeah that was the end of Part Three and The Doctor had a big fight with Grun or Grunt or whatever."
Jason: "It should say..." *Reading end credits* "Stuart Fell!"
MJ: "Did he?.." *Reading end credits* "Ahh Grun! there you go - Gordon St. Clair. I wonder if that's any relation to Isla St. Clair?"
Jason: "Yes....DEFINITELY!"
MJ: "And yes, he's got shot at by the skull in a box (Arcturus)!" *Singing* "Skull-in-a-box!"
Jason: "What's in the box?"
MJ: "WHAT"S IN THE BOX???"
Leigh: "It's a skull - Yay!!"
Shaun: "So, after three episodes of careful planning and political machinations, Arcturus is just shooting everyone with his gun-in-a-box that's he's had all along!"
*Laughter*
MJ: "It's like he's just remembered 'Oh I've got that gun haven't I!? I could just use that!' Hah! I didn't need to do all that - sorry" *Puts on Arcturus voice* "I didn't need to do all that!!" *Normal voice* "He says, spurting in his thing!"
Leigh: " 'Spurting in his thing'!"
MJ: "Obviously that sounds great in audio! Hah!" *To Mark* "Who are you looking up on your phone?"
Mark: "I was just looking up Isla St. Clair - to get your reference!"
Jason: "She did the Eurovision song contest and she used to present stuff."
Mark: "I looked her up and I STILL don't know who she is!"
MJ: "She was in 'Blankerty Blank' when Larry Grayson did it! She was like the glamorous assistant. Like who did it with Brucie (Bruce Forsythe)? Ford, somebody? Rosemary Ford? 'Cos he said:" *Puts on Brucie voice* "What's on the board, jib-jib-jib-jib, Miss Ford?"
Jason: "Harrison Ford."
Mark: *Laughing* "Harrison Ford??!"
Gavin: "Wasn't she in 'Wurzel Gummidge' as well? Was that Isla St. Clair as well?"
MJ: "No, Una Stubbs was in that."
*EPISODE FOUR STARTS*
Shaun: "Oh it was the Ice Warrior that had the gun!"
MJ: "Ahhh and he shot the box guy (Arcturus)!"
*EPISODE FOUR GETS WATCHED*
Gavin: "David Troughton?"
MJ: "Yeah."
Gavin: "Oh is that his (Patrick Troughton's) son?"
MJ: "Yeah. We said that at the beginning - I think. He was also in 'The War Games' - he had a small part. Err I enjoyed that! That was pretty good."
Jason: "It was alright."
Shaun: "Yeah."
MJ: "Jo sort of fell in love - had a little peck."
Jason: "Not quite falling in love."
MJ: "Well no."
Mark: "No."
MJ: "She didn't want to stay. I wouldn't blame her - seems a horrible place."
Jason: "Not the greatest first impression."
Mark: *Laughing* "No."
MJ: "Mind you they've only been to one place! It would be like coming to Earth and just going to, you know, Slough. And then going 'Ewww - I don't really like Earth.' "
*Laughter*
Shaun: "Yeah, but our royal family doesn't live in Slough! They are LITERALLY in the royal castle!"
*Laughter*
Leigh: "Which has NO secret passages!"
Shaun: "No!"
Mark: "No secret passages."
MJ: "Erm, how did you find the King?"
Jason: "He was on the throne!"
*Laughter*
Leigh: "He just spent all his time in the throne room - he was easy to find."
Mark: "He was quite easy to find."
MJ: "I wasn't that impressed with his acting - I thought he was a bit wet."
Jason: "I thought he was REALLY good!!"
Shaun: "I thought he was very good!"
Jason: "He carried quite a weight to things."
MJ: "He was a bit" *Puts on wet voice* "Ohh errr...."
Shaun: "Yeah but he was supposed to be."
MJ: "Yeah I suppose, I suppose."
Jason: "I was just thinking that before you said."
MJ: "Because obviously I've seen the actor in 'Midnight' - David Tennant one -"
Jason: "The future!"
MJ: "The Fuuuuuuture! And I think he's excellent in that."
Jason: "I thought he was BETTER in this one!"
MJ: "There you go. And Alpha Centuri?"
Leigh: *High pitched squeaky voice* "Alpha Centuri was my favourite!!"
*Laughter*
Jason: "I've only seen the LAST episode of the next one she's in. I say 'She' - she's played by Stuart!"
Shaun: "No it's an hermaphrodite - they said that."
Jason: "An hermaphrodite hexapod! Who's got six arms or legs - it's walking on it's bum basically!"
MJ: "Girls voice - man in the costume so..."
Jason: "Hermaphrodite hexapod it is!"
MJ: "Yeah. Hermaphrodite hexapod! Hah!"
Shaun: "That's not how you get a Hermaphrodite! Getting a bloke to voice over a woman! That's not what that is - how it works!"
MJ: "Leigh, you seemed quite keen on Alpha Centuri! Hah!"
Leigh: *High pitched squeaky voice* "I was very keen on Alpha Centuri!"
*Laughter*
Jason: "Sprout penis."
Mark: *Laughing* "Sprout penis!"
Shaun: "I'll just say I'm probably going to mark this very high - but it would have been higher if not for Alpha Centuri. On the other hand it's remaining high because of the humour I got from it! A penis with a little girl voice!!?"
*Mark chuckles*
MJ: "So you're not sure it worked!?"
*Laughter*
Leigh: "It was stupid!!"
Shaun: "It worked in all the WRONG ways!"
Jason: "It worked remarkably well for very bad puppetry and costumes!"
Gavin: "Especially the head in the box!"
MJ: "Yeah. I suppose they are trying to say that not all aliens are cool looking or similar - that you might get a few really odd ones!"
Shaun: "No I think the regular costume designer had a couple of weeks off and they got some half-retarded intern to design this one."
*Laughter*
Leigh: "Or some Blue Peter competition winner."
Jason: "Also the music in the earlier episode was more 'Bank-bank-bammmm!' And then later it got quite - "
Shaun: "- Synthy."
Jason: "Erm, almost 'A-Team' like. The drums came in more."
MJ: "Yes. And, as I said before, it was a nice spin on the Ice Warriors not being the bad guys."
Shaun: "Yeah."
Jason: "Some of the green guys stuck together though."
Leigh: "Yeah, bloody green guys!"
MJ: "I think it was this one that was on around the time when Britain were going to join the EU and there was lots of scaremongering about it. People were not very sure what would happen - obviously you get that with the galactic thing. Thank God that's all in the past! Hah!" (We were referencing that as the time we watched this Britain were voting again whether they wanted to be in or out of the EU - they voted out. I didn't! We need to stick together with the green aliens!)
Mark: "That worked out well..."
MJ: "Yes that worked out well.." *Mark and MJ laugh* "For 40 odd years - or was it 30? However long! There you go."
Shaun: "It was a little under 40 years."
MJ: "I'm sure the book will tell us!"
Jason: "The book will tell us that this was February 1972."
MJ: "Yes we know that."
Mark: "Yes it says it on the DVD case."
MJ: "Yeah, were on about when we joined the EU thing!!"
Jason: "The book says..."
Mark: "...it was 1972!"
Gavin: "No it was 1975!"
MJ: "Was it?"
Gavin: "Yes."
Jason: "Well, maybe they were thinking about it for three years!"
MJ: "Yeah - sometimes these things take a while."
Shaun: "Or maybe you're just talking b**locks!"
MJ: "Okay. Any other thoughts?.... I can't think. The Doctor's cloak....that was alright..."
Leigh: "It was all a bit 'Scooby-Doo'."
MJ: "It WAS a bit 'Scooby-Doo' - with the secret caves and the torches that open the secret passageways."
Jason: "I didn't think the beast was THAT interesting."
Shaun: "I like what they did with it though. It was basically an almost extinct species and bloke went and found one and made it out to be the avatar of God."
Jason: "They did that already with the Yeti!"
MJ: "Didn't it seemed more terrifying - I mean not REALLY but didn't it seem more 'Grrr' until he got it down and started walking it around? I was like 'Oh I didn't think it was THAT small!' "
Jason: "It did! Definitely. I seemed to think, when it was shot from below, it was eight foot tall."
MJ: "Then it was like 'Oh - it's a little man in a costume - a little kid!'. You know 'Come on it's Halloween! Got to take you out - hold my hand!' 'Rarrrr!' 'YES! You're a MONSTER!' "
Shaun: "It did kind of work with the build-up."
MJ: "Yes that's true. Perhaps he's got Small Monster Syndrome."
Jason: "Yeah, it was alright."
MJ: "Yeah."
Shaun: "I thoroughly enjoyed it."
MJ: "Yeah okay, so we should give marks - but Mark's not here."
Jason: "What was the last episode so I can compare it against that?" *Looking in The Book* "The last episode was...."
Shaun: "It was the Daleks wasn't it!?"
Jason: " 'Day of The Daleks'!"
MJ: "Yes."
Jason: "I have NO memory of what happened!"
Shaun: "It was the one with the wonky Daleks - the voices were slightly wrong and they didn't look quite right."
Jason: "Oh they kept saying 'Guerilla' that was it. Yeah..."
Shaun: *Dalek voice* "GUE-RILLA! GUE-RILLA!"
MJ: "Hah!" *Dalek voice* "MON-KEY!" *Normal voice* "I thought that was a good one - with the house blowing up." Jason: "Oh, not much wrong with it. Eight. I mean not if it was broadcast TODAY, looking just like that. Then I'd probably go... four!"
*Laughter*
MJ: "Yeah but we're not doing it for that! Comparing it to today's..."
Jason: "In the day I'm going to give it a seven point eight two."
MJ: "Seven point eight two from Jason. Errr, Mark?" *Puts on high voice* "Ooooo I dunno!"
*Laughter*
Jason: "F**k it - eight!"
MJ: "Ahh Jason's gone eight - I'll enjoy typing up all this messing around."
*Laughter* "Shauny, baby?"
Shaun: "I'm going to give it an, erm, eight point three four one eight six."
MJ: "That's quite high."
Jason: "I'm determined to give it ten soon."
MJ: "Yeah. Leigh?"
Leigh: *High pitched Alpha Centuri squeaky voice* "I'm going to give it seven!!!!"
*Laughter*
MJ: "Awww - should I put this online as an audio!!? Just hearing Leigh's impressions - I should clip them together! Fantastic. What about you Gav?"
Gavin: "Eight. It was good, good story."
MJ: "Yes I enjoyed it too. I'd go for eight - and it was also a four parter which is always good! Now we need to get Mark to come down." *He was in the loo!*
Shaun: "Yeah."
MJ: "I should shout." *Does quietest shout ever* "Mark!"
Leigh: "That wasn't shouting!"
MJ: "Yeah well he might be getting amorous!"
*Laughter*
Leigh: "I hope not!!"
MJ: *Puts on sort of Mark voice* " 'So the guys are downstairs, but erm...' " *Normal voice* "Sorry Gavin that's your sister!" *Laughter* "You don't want to hear what he's doing up there - but there is a certain amount of plough-age!"
*Laughter*
Shaun: *Laughing* "That is - no - literally the girl's f**king brother is sat in the room and you're saying this!!?"
*Laughter*
MJ: "Yeah that's true. That's why, whenever we talk about your sister, Toni, we do it behind your back because that's what respectful things do!"
Shaun: "Thanks."
*Laughter*
MJ: "Ahhh dear."
Shaun: "The sets were quite good in that one. Quite basic but they got the idea across."
MJ: "Yeah, yeah."
Jason: "You'll be interested to know there was NO location filming at all - not a real cliff-face."
Leigh: "They filmed nowhere?"
Jason: "No LOCATION filming - I'm not saying they didn't film! It was all in the studio!"
Leigh: "Where's the studio?"
Jason: "It's a term people use in TV, alright!?"
*Leigh laughs*
Gavin: "In Elmstree, probably."
MJ: "I would have thought that when they were climbing up the mountain - well I reckon THAT would have been done elsewhere - not at the television studio."
Shaun: "But Jason said there was none!"
MJ: "No, no, no. They often put filmed work (work on film - not video tape) in a different studio."
Shaun: "Yep! He said there was none."
Jason: *Reading* " 'This story (and it's sequel 'The Monster Of Peladon') -' "
Shaun: "- Errrr spoilers!"
Jason: " '- were the only two Pertwee serials NOT to have any location filming'."
Shaun: "There we go."
MJ: "No, but film work in the other studio - like special effects and stuff - that was done on film and then edited together with the video recording in the thing (or editing suite!). So I reckon that - when they were climbing up the mountain - with the rain on them and stuff."
Jason: "Okay, shut up, MJ."
*Laughter*
Jason: *Reading* "It was shot in Studio C."
MJ: "This conversation recording's up to 34 bloody minutes!!"
Jason: "You can pause it!"
Shaun: "No I think we should continue to chat on."
MJ: "Mark, get bloody down here!!" *Mark comes back* "Marks out of ten!?"
Mark: "Marks out of ten? Erm..."
Shaun: "I'd give him a five - he's alright!"
*Laughter*
Leigh: "Oh I didn't know we were marking Mark?!"
Mark: "Erm, I dunno. I enjoyed that one. I suppose eight point two."
MJ: "Oh that's good - we all went eight, pretty much."
Leigh: "I went seven!"
MJ: "Yeah."
Mark: "You always go lower!"
MJ: "So read us out what 'The Book' thinks. That's what we thinks!"
*Mark chuckles*
*Jason reads a part that is unintelligible with an impression of Alpha Centuri*
*Huge laughter*
Jason: *Reading* " 'Sonny Caldinez and Alan Bennion resumed roles similar to the ones played in 'The Seeds Of Death'.' "
MJ: "Ahhh okay. That Sonny played - well do you remember the great big guy who helped Victoria in 'Evil Of The Daleks' through all the traps? No!"
Jason: *Reading* " 'Sorg'. Erm blah blah blah. 'Although Bennion's Ice Lord costume was new. Alpha Centuri was given a cloak by Director, Lennie Mayne, to disguise it's phallic appearance'."
*HUGE Laughter*
Shaun: "But that just added to it!!"
MJ: "Well we did say penis!" *Mark chuckles* (To Mark) "YOU said penis."
*Mark chuckles*
Jason: *Reading* " 'An adventure DRIPPING with atmosphere and featuring a memorable cast of green-skinned monsters. Pertwee and Manning are on top form - ten out of ten.' "
*Gasps of 'Oooo' and 'Wow' from us all*
MJ: "No I thought this one would be not that great but there you go. I've never seen it before....Never will again!" *Laughter* "No, I will. That was very good indeed. Well done - and no Brigadier! Or ANY of UNIT."
Jason: "No."
Gavin: "No."
Jason: "Yates got mentioned."
Mark: "Except for the one guy that died."
MJ: "What's the next one Jason?"
Jason: "Errrr I know who's in it - I saw that bit! It's the 'Adventure - "
Leigh: "- Of Portland Bill!"
Jason: " - in Time and Telly.' "
Leigh: " 'Of The Daleks'! "
*Laughter*
MJ: "Is it 'The Mutants', maybe?"
Jason: "Oh 'The Sea Devils'!"
MJ: "Ahh I've seen that one."
Shaun: "The chance for foam!"
MJ: "Basically they are relations of the Silurians."
Shaun: "Right."
Mark: "Okay."
MJ: "So there we go.....AND we get to visit The Master in jail!"
Jason: "I think I've seen that one."
MJ: "So that's nice. Okay I'm going to stop it there! Yayyyyy! Thirty-seven minutes! Bloody Hell!"
Mark: "Will The Master be behind it all again?"
MJ: "No...."
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Well that was a very long one! Once again I'm way behind but here were the scores:
Mark: "I assume so."
Shaun: "Yep."
Leigh: "Because of what?"
Shaun: "Because of the heavyweight political meanderings. You've got the boy king there. You know.... I'm imagining, whatever the assistant's name is -"
MJ: "- Jo."
Shaun: "- pretending to be a Princess is going to all Cersei at the end of this."
*Mark and Leigh chuckle* "The Ice Warriors are clearly, you know..."
Leigh: "Green?"
Shaun: *Laughing* "I was GOING to say..."
MJ: "Hold on, you've had a season and a bit and you STILL can't remember Jo's name!?"
Shaun: "Yeah I don't find her very interesting. And I know she's about for bloody ages but I'm STILL slightly bitter that they got rid of the one I liked!! (Liz Shaw) Who, by the way, was in four TV movies, that were spin-offs of Doctor Who, called PROBE I found out the other day."
MJ: "Yes. I believe so, yeah yeah."
Shaun: "That made me very happy. Liz and a PROBE."
MJ: "I believe they were straight to video."
Mark: "I don't need to know WHAT you were searching in Google to find THAT show!" *Laughs*
MJ: *Watching the start of Episode Two* "Oh I didn't realise (King Peladon) had a skirt on!"
Mark: "Yeah that kind of undermines his entire speech at the start once I realised he was wearing a little skirt."
Shaun: "Yeah."
MJ: "King Peladon, played by David Troughton"
Jason: "Oh is THAT David Troughton?!"
MJ: "Yeah."
Jason: "I didn't recognise him!"
MJ: "Okay I'm going to pause it. Part Two..."
*EPISODE TWO GETS WATCHED*
Photo 2: At Mark's house - Gavin,
Shaun, Mark (holding the sign),
Shaun, Mark (holding the sign),
Jason (with the DVD case) & Leigh.
MJ: "So The Doctor's gonna be killed for, err, going into a, err, sacred area. I really laughed when he said 'Holy of Holies' as that's something they say in 'The League of Gentlemen'."
Mark: "Yeah."
Leigh: "And they say 'And' in 'The League of Gentlemen'."
MJ: "They DO say that! Hah!"
Mark: "That's something also something that's said in 'The League of Gentlemen'...."
Jason: "They also say 'Holiest of Holies' in 'Pulp Fiction'."
MJ: "I haven't seen that."
Shaun: "You've seen 'The League of Gentlemen' but you haven't seen 'Pulp Fiction'!?"
MJ: "Yeah?"
Mark: "You've met MJ?..."
Shaun: "Oh yeah."
Mark: "That does seem rather likely."
MJ: "Why would - I mean, they're not similar at all! Why's it?.... 'You can't WATCH 'The League of Gentlemen' without watching 'Pulp Fiction' - it's impossible!!' - it's like saying - "
Shaun: "No, because 'Pulp Fiction' is a cinematic masterpiece and 'The League of Gentlemen' was a pretty-good-for-one-season comedy show!"
MJ: "I'd say THREE! In fact my favourite IS the third season, which was excellent. Anyway I'm enjoying this Doctor Who so far! I've never seen it before."
Shaun: "Yeah it's pretty good."
Mark: "Yeah."
Jason: "They are conveying quite a serious tone and getting away with it remarkably well for what is basically Muppets and -"
Shaun: "- A giant penis!"
*Laughter*
MJ: "We're ignoring the massive penis and the, erm, strange spurting skull and the crap monsters."
Shaun: "I'm tremendously confused to - "
Leigh: *Doing high pitched impression of the 'Giant Penis' character of Alpha Centuri* "I'm also tremendously confused!!"
*Laughter*
Jason: "It sounds like - well there was a Victoria Wood character that sounds just like it! That's why I've been putting it off! I've got it now - thanks Leigh!"
*Laughter*
Shaun: "So the monster in the basement, right, is the ancient prophecy, it's Agethor returned - it's Agatha returned right? (Well it's actually 'Aggedor'!) But that's their God, but also their monster? And it will appear in time or crisis? But it's probably going to turn out to be some kind of suit."
MJ: "Oh yeah! This is Scooby Doo!"
Shaun: "But they said earlier that they have to hunt it and take its fur for their costumes."
MJ: "Ahh. Okay."
Shaun: "Which wouldn't be a time of great cris - I'm thinking too much into this!! I think that's what we've come down to now!"
Jason: "I would like it to be a big murder mystery thing but I thought it was all revealed? It was just that bloke doing it."
Shaun: "No!"
Jason: "Oh okay."
Shaun: "He ran from it when he was taking The Doctor to feed HIM to the monster."
Jason: It was like a pet - it was like, err - "
Shaun: "I'm just going to go with that it's like Ludo from 'Labyrinth'!"
Jason: "- I was thinking more the one from 'The Goonies'!"
MJ: "What, Sloth?"
Jason: "THAT'S the word I was trying for! That's why I kept saying 'Slur', 'Slurr'! I was trying to work out what it was - Sloth, yeah."
MJ: "Erm, it's an interesting idea. They seemed to have turned round what the Ice Warriors are. You're supposed to think that THEY are the bad guys."
Shaun: "Yes, I'm pretty sure genocide will do that to a civilisation!"
Leigh: "Yeah but The Doctor's a bigoted jerk who thinks they're all evil anyway!"
Shaun: "Yeah."
MJ: "Yeah. They can't change..."
Shaun: " 'I've met you guys TWICE - once on Earth and once in space when you was trying to take over the Earth. Now, millions of years later - "
Leigh: "- Or the past."
Mark: "Well, to be fair both times they were trying to kill Earth!"
MJ: "They were. But now they've learnt from their mistakes - a new governments got in. They've voted out Farage and err..." *Laughter* "They don't mind foreigners so much now! It's all good."
Shaun: "I kind of like the idea of an Ice Warrior played by Caroline Lucas."
Leigh: "Why?!?"
MJ: "Who's this, sorry? 'Caroline Lucas'?"
Shaun: "Well if you liken the other one to Nigel Farage - the hateful figure - Caroline Lucas is the MP for the Green Party."
MJ: "Ahhh yes I know - the Aussie."
Shaun: "She'd be a lovely Ice Warrior - she'd be compassionate."
Mark: "You're referencing politics beyond 1970. He has no idea what you're talking about!"
Shaun: "That's a good point. Edward Heath!"
MJ: "Oh yes I know of him!"
Shaun: "So the Ice Warriors in this one then - bringing us back on topic."
MJ: "They're good. There voices don't seem as irritating this time."
Shaun: "No."
Leigh: "I don't know, Zog's voice is pretty irritating!"
MJ: "Oh yeah, yeah. That's the skull in the box isn't it?"
Leigh: "No that's Arcturus. Zog is like the - I think it was Zog? Or something like that! He's the sub-delegate....the one with the gun!"
MJ: "Yeah, yeah. Well they are the Ice Warriors - whereas the others are the Ice Lords, are they? Or something - the ones with the helmets."
Mark: "Yeah."
Shaun: "Oh yeah they gave them another title didn't they?"
MJ: "He was the one last time (in the 'Seeds Of Death') who was angry saying:" *Puts on hissy voice* " 'Do not ask questionsssss!!!' He seemed to be more seething which did get a bit wearing but this one's a bit more err..."
Leigh: "Happy?"
MJ: *Puts on Scouse accent* "'Calm down, calm down - Liverpudlian. Haha!"
Leigh: *Laughing* " 'We only try and put people in comas! We're the good guys!!' "
MJ: "Yeah, c'mon, eh?!"
Shaun: "Well I think his point there was that whoever was doing it didn't have the scientific acumen to kill him."
Leigh: "Oh I thought their point was that they were only trying to put him in a coma."
Shaun: "No the Ice Warriors didn't do it."
Mark: "I think we all took that point, yeah." *Giggles* "If they were trying to kill him they'd have done it better!"
Shaun: "Yeah they knew how too - and that's what they would have done. They're not trying to - they're...the good guys in this!"
MJ: "That's right!"
Leigh: "That's not what The Doctor says!"
MJ: "Well, so far! We don't know!"
Shaun: "Yeah - there could be two plots going on!"
MJ: "Yeah. Errr criss-cross!"
Shaun: "Criss-cross! I don't quite get why they're trying to frame...well they keep saying it's their God that's doing all this, but they're obviously trying to frame the Ice Warriors at the same time."
MJ: "Mmmm."
Shaun: "Which is a bit confusing."
Mark: "They're trying to throw people off the scent."
Shaun: "But the whole point is it's supposed to be THEM doing it!"
Mark: "Because they want the whole thing (the joining in with the Galactic Federation) to fail."
MJ: "They don't want it so they're like 'Well if we make it look like THEY'RE the bad guys (The Ice Warriors), then people won't trust them and then -"
Shaun: "- Yeah but the High Priest came in and said 'This is the work of Agatha! (Aggedor)'. Rather than 'Oh the Ice Warriors probably did that - go check their room!' "
*MJ laughs*
Mark: "Yeah but then he was like the crazy guy - he can't be in charge of anything!"
Shaun: "Which is clearly the case." *Mark giggles* "I mean you have an entire kingdom based on two advisers - and one of them is dead!! It's not going well."
*Mark giggles*
MJ: "Awww his ginger-streaked twin is no more."
Shaun: "The champion can't even talk!"
MJ: "Yeah." *Makes 'mmmmMmmmM' noises* "Yeah the old mute - what was his name?"
Shaun: "He's not mute he's, erm, obviously brain dead."
MJ: "I though he had his tongue cut out or something?"
Shaun: "He might have done!"
MJ: "I wanna see HIS story - his back story!"
Shaun: "Maybe he'll be the new companion!"
MJ: "Haha! Yeah, that won't get wearing..." *Laughs*
Shaun: "No that'd be absolutely fine - I'd love that in every episode!"
MJ: *Going inside house and saying to Leigh* "We like the guy who can't speak - probably had his tongue cut-out - we don't know. Shaun says what about him for the new companion."
Leigh: "That woud be awesome." *Makes 'mmmmMmmmM' noises*
*MJ Laughs*
Leigh: " 'What's that Grunt? You've fallen over!?' "
*Laughter*
MJ: "I think Grunt - I love it! 'Me name's 'David'!"
Shaun: "I think it's 'Grant'! He just had a weirdly normal name."
Jason: "I was going 'Is it Grant or Grunt?' for ages!"
Shaun: " 'The Book' will tell us in the end!
Jason: "I hope so - and I hope the little head in the jar is called Phil."
Shaun: "Hahah! 'Phil'!"
Leigh: "No I think he called 'Acturus' or something?"
MJ: "He's called Phil McCrevice."
*Laughter*
Leigh: "Phil McCrevice."
MJ: "He's Scottish!"
*Laughter*
Leigh: "He hasn't got a crevice to fill!!"
Gavin: "I thought it was Phil McCavity? Or is that his cousin?"
MJ: *Laughing* "Yes that's his cousin! Phil Cool should have been in Doctor Who as he used to pull all those faces!"
Jason: "Was he not in it? He sounds exactly like the sort of person that WOULD have been in eighties Doctor Who!"
MJ: "Yeah, but wasn't. He sued to do impressions of - what was it? From like 'Thunderbirds'? Or 'Stingray' or something?"
Jason: "I don't remember what he did. He pulled faces - that was it!"
Shaun: "I've no idea who you're talking about!!"
Jason: "Imagine MJ - "
Leigh: "I can't!"
MJ: "You don't need to! I'm here!"
Jason: "Imagine him appearing on other comedian's shows - Jasper Carrott or Des O'Conner or something - in the mid-eighties I think."
MJ: "Yeah."
Jason: "His act, in my memory, was basically pulling faces."
MJ: "Yeah it was."
Jason: "It could have been extremely intellectual and political -"
MJ: "No."
Jason: "- But my young mind he plays a man that goes:" *Jason pulls a face and makes a noise*
Shaun: "I must have seen it then, because I watched all the Jasper Carrott stuff."
MJ: "And he had his own thing like - was it 'Stay Cool' or something? It was always 'Cool' in the title."
Jason: "Yes."
MJ: "A bit like 'Take Hart' or 'Hart Beat" - you know, with Tony Hart. Except when he did 'Vision On' - which didn't have 'Hart' in it."
Shaun: "Tony Hart created 'Heartbeat'??"
Jason: "Not the Nick Berry vehicle!"
MJ: *Laughing* "Not the North Yorkshire moors police show!"
Shaun: *Laughing* "I don't remember Morph showing up in the 1960's police show! Was it a police show? I don't remember."
Leigh: "Sort of."
Jason: "Yep!"
Shaun: "It seemed to have a policeman in it a lot? In the few episodes I've seen."
Jason: "Is, erm, Oh I don't know if I need to continue that..."
Shaun: "You definitely DO!"
Jason: "That other show - that I can't think of the name of - is that in the same universe as the 'Heartbeat' universe?"
Leigh: "What show?"
Shaun: "Ballykissangel!"
Jason: "The hospital one in the 60's."
Leigh: "Oh yeah it is. 'The Royal'."
MJ: "Yeah."
Jason: "Alright! That was worth continuing with."
Shaun: "It was."
MJ: "They called it that because of Jim Royale - from 'The Royale Family'.... 'My arse' - that's what he says...."
Shaun: "Hah! He did say 'My arse' a lot! And Caroline Ahearne is now dead."
Leigh: "My arse."
Jason: "Your arse is now dead?"
*Shaun laughs*
MJ: "They'll be no more Mrs Merton. I like it when she said:" *Puts on CRAZED, not even SLIGHTLY like her - Mrs Merton voice* " 'WHY DID YA MARRY THE MILLIONAIRE PAUL DANIELS!!' "
Jason: "That's a terrible impression because I immediately thought you were doing an impression of Paul Daniels!"
Shaun: *Laughing* "Yeah!"
*Leigh laughs*
MJ: "He used to say:" *Puts on high-pitched, non-Paul Daniels voice* "'NOT A LOT!! YOU'LL LIKE THIS MAGIC TRICK, NOT A LOT! I'M ALPHA CENTURI!!'"
*Laughter*
Jason: "I was waiting for that."
*Laughter*
MJ: "Anyway I should pause it there 'cos it's just..."
Shaun: "But we have more VERY relevant Doctor Who conversation to have!"
*Laughter* "We're just getting INTO Paul Daniels!"
Leigh: "I remember Doctor Who!"Mark: "We've had VERY little about Doctor Who."
*Laughter*
Shaun: "Did you know 'Wizbit' is set in the Doctor Who universe!?"
*Laughter*
MJ: "Did you know that Paul Daniels is Helen Daniels Dad!"
*Laughter*
Leigh: *Laughing* "What?? No!!"
Shaun: *Laughing* "Helen Daniels isn't even a real person!!! It's a character!!!"
MJ: *Laughing* "So is Paul Daniels - he was a character!! His real name was Jimmy Smitts!"
Jason: "What!?? From 'L.A. Law'?!"
*Laughter*
Leigh: "Why do you remember 'L.A. Law'?!"
Jason: "I'm pretty sure it was 'L.A. Law'"
MJ: "I don't remember it! I just know the name Jimmy Smitts! Anyway I didn't say it was THAT Jimmy Smitts! It's like John Smith - there's lots of John Smiths...."
*AFTER SOME MORE BABBLE EPISODE THREE GETS WATCHED*
Photo 3: At Mark's house - Gavin,
Shaun, Mark (holding the sign),
Shaun, Mark (holding the sign),
MJ (with the DVD case) & Leigh.
MJ: "So yeah that was the end of Part Three and The Doctor had a big fight with Grun or Grunt or whatever."
Jason: "It should say..." *Reading end credits* "Stuart Fell!"
MJ: "Did he?.." *Reading end credits* "Ahh Grun! there you go - Gordon St. Clair. I wonder if that's any relation to Isla St. Clair?"
Jason: "Yes....DEFINITELY!"
MJ: "And yes, he's got shot at by the skull in a box (Arcturus)!" *Singing* "Skull-in-a-box!"
Jason: "What's in the box?"
MJ: "WHAT"S IN THE BOX???"
Leigh: "It's a skull - Yay!!"
Shaun: "So, after three episodes of careful planning and political machinations, Arcturus is just shooting everyone with his gun-in-a-box that's he's had all along!"
*Laughter*
MJ: "It's like he's just remembered 'Oh I've got that gun haven't I!? I could just use that!' Hah! I didn't need to do all that - sorry" *Puts on Arcturus voice* "I didn't need to do all that!!" *Normal voice* "He says, spurting in his thing!"
Leigh: " 'Spurting in his thing'!"
MJ: "Obviously that sounds great in audio! Hah!" *To Mark* "Who are you looking up on your phone?"
Mark: "I was just looking up Isla St. Clair - to get your reference!"
Jason: "She did the Eurovision song contest and she used to present stuff."
Mark: "I looked her up and I STILL don't know who she is!"
MJ: "She was in 'Blankerty Blank' when Larry Grayson did it! She was like the glamorous assistant. Like who did it with Brucie (Bruce Forsythe)? Ford, somebody? Rosemary Ford? 'Cos he said:" *Puts on Brucie voice* "What's on the board, jib-jib-jib-jib, Miss Ford?"
Jason: "Harrison Ford."
Mark: *Laughing* "Harrison Ford??!"
Gavin: "Wasn't she in 'Wurzel Gummidge' as well? Was that Isla St. Clair as well?"
MJ: "No, Una Stubbs was in that."
*EPISODE FOUR STARTS*
Shaun: "Oh it was the Ice Warrior that had the gun!"
MJ: "Ahhh and he shot the box guy (Arcturus)!"
*EPISODE FOUR GETS WATCHED*
Photo 4: At Mark's house -
Mark (holding the sign).
MJ: "Yeah."
Gavin: "Oh is that his (Patrick Troughton's) son?"
MJ: "Yeah. We said that at the beginning - I think. He was also in 'The War Games' - he had a small part. Err I enjoyed that! That was pretty good."
Jason: "It was alright."
Shaun: "Yeah."
MJ: "Jo sort of fell in love - had a little peck."
Jason: "Not quite falling in love."
MJ: "Well no."
Mark: "No."
MJ: "She didn't want to stay. I wouldn't blame her - seems a horrible place."
Jason: "Not the greatest first impression."
Mark: *Laughing* "No."
MJ: "Mind you they've only been to one place! It would be like coming to Earth and just going to, you know, Slough. And then going 'Ewww - I don't really like Earth.' "
*Laughter*
Shaun: "Yeah, but our royal family doesn't live in Slough! They are LITERALLY in the royal castle!"
*Laughter*
Leigh: "Which has NO secret passages!"
Shaun: "No!"
Mark: "No secret passages."
MJ: "Erm, how did you find the King?"
Jason: "He was on the throne!"
*Laughter*
Leigh: "He just spent all his time in the throne room - he was easy to find."
Mark: "He was quite easy to find."
MJ: "I wasn't that impressed with his acting - I thought he was a bit wet."
Jason: "I thought he was REALLY good!!"
Shaun: "I thought he was very good!"
Jason: "He carried quite a weight to things."
MJ: "He was a bit" *Puts on wet voice* "Ohh errr...."
Shaun: "Yeah but he was supposed to be."
MJ: "Yeah I suppose, I suppose."
Jason: "I was just thinking that before you said."
MJ: "Because obviously I've seen the actor in 'Midnight' - David Tennant one -"
Jason: "The future!"
MJ: "The Fuuuuuuture! And I think he's excellent in that."
Jason: "I thought he was BETTER in this one!"
MJ: "There you go. And Alpha Centuri?"
Leigh: *High pitched squeaky voice* "Alpha Centuri was my favourite!!"
*Laughter*
Jason: "I've only seen the LAST episode of the next one she's in. I say 'She' - she's played by Stuart!"
Shaun: "No it's an hermaphrodite - they said that."
Jason: "An hermaphrodite hexapod! Who's got six arms or legs - it's walking on it's bum basically!"
MJ: "Girls voice - man in the costume so..."
Jason: "Hermaphrodite hexapod it is!"
MJ: "Yeah. Hermaphrodite hexapod! Hah!"
Shaun: "That's not how you get a Hermaphrodite! Getting a bloke to voice over a woman! That's not what that is - how it works!"
MJ: "Leigh, you seemed quite keen on Alpha Centuri! Hah!"
Leigh: *High pitched squeaky voice* "I was very keen on Alpha Centuri!"
*Laughter*
Jason: "Sprout penis."
Mark: *Laughing* "Sprout penis!"
Shaun: "I'll just say I'm probably going to mark this very high - but it would have been higher if not for Alpha Centuri. On the other hand it's remaining high because of the humour I got from it! A penis with a little girl voice!!?"
*Mark chuckles*
MJ: "So you're not sure it worked!?"
*Laughter*
Leigh: "It was stupid!!"
Shaun: "It worked in all the WRONG ways!"
Jason: "It worked remarkably well for very bad puppetry and costumes!"
Gavin: "Especially the head in the box!"
MJ: "Yeah. I suppose they are trying to say that not all aliens are cool looking or similar - that you might get a few really odd ones!"
Shaun: "No I think the regular costume designer had a couple of weeks off and they got some half-retarded intern to design this one."
*Laughter*
Leigh: "Or some Blue Peter competition winner."
Jason: "Also the music in the earlier episode was more 'Bank-bank-bammmm!' And then later it got quite - "
Shaun: "- Synthy."
Jason: "Erm, almost 'A-Team' like. The drums came in more."
MJ: "Yes. And, as I said before, it was a nice spin on the Ice Warriors not being the bad guys."
Shaun: "Yeah."
Jason: "Some of the green guys stuck together though."
Leigh: "Yeah, bloody green guys!"
MJ: "I think it was this one that was on around the time when Britain were going to join the EU and there was lots of scaremongering about it. People were not very sure what would happen - obviously you get that with the galactic thing. Thank God that's all in the past! Hah!" (We were referencing that as the time we watched this Britain were voting again whether they wanted to be in or out of the EU - they voted out. I didn't! We need to stick together with the green aliens!)
Mark: "That worked out well..."
MJ: "Yes that worked out well.." *Mark and MJ laugh* "For 40 odd years - or was it 30? However long! There you go."
Shaun: "It was a little under 40 years."
MJ: "I'm sure the book will tell us!"
Jason: "The book will tell us that this was February 1972."
MJ: "Yes we know that."
Mark: "Yes it says it on the DVD case."
MJ: "Yeah, were on about when we joined the EU thing!!"
Jason: "The book says..."
Mark: "...it was 1972!"
Gavin: "No it was 1975!"
MJ: "Was it?"
Gavin: "Yes."
Jason: "Well, maybe they were thinking about it for three years!"
MJ: "Yeah - sometimes these things take a while."
Shaun: "Or maybe you're just talking b**locks!"
MJ: "Okay. Any other thoughts?.... I can't think. The Doctor's cloak....that was alright..."
Leigh: "It was all a bit 'Scooby-Doo'."
MJ: "It WAS a bit 'Scooby-Doo' - with the secret caves and the torches that open the secret passageways."
Jason: "I didn't think the beast was THAT interesting."
Shaun: "I like what they did with it though. It was basically an almost extinct species and bloke went and found one and made it out to be the avatar of God."
Jason: "They did that already with the Yeti!"
MJ: "Didn't it seemed more terrifying - I mean not REALLY but didn't it seem more 'Grrr' until he got it down and started walking it around? I was like 'Oh I didn't think it was THAT small!' "
Jason: "It did! Definitely. I seemed to think, when it was shot from below, it was eight foot tall."
MJ: "Then it was like 'Oh - it's a little man in a costume - a little kid!'. You know 'Come on it's Halloween! Got to take you out - hold my hand!' 'Rarrrr!' 'YES! You're a MONSTER!' "
Shaun: "It did kind of work with the build-up."
MJ: "Yes that's true. Perhaps he's got Small Monster Syndrome."
Jason: "Yeah, it was alright."
MJ: "Yeah."
Shaun: "I thoroughly enjoyed it."
Photo 5: At Mark's house -
Mark (hiding behind the sign),
MJ (with the DVD case) & Leigh.
MJ: "Yeah okay, so we should give marks - but Mark's not here."
Jason: "What was the last episode so I can compare it against that?" *Looking in The Book* "The last episode was...."
Shaun: "It was the Daleks wasn't it!?"
Jason: " 'Day of The Daleks'!"
MJ: "Yes."
Jason: "I have NO memory of what happened!"
Shaun: "It was the one with the wonky Daleks - the voices were slightly wrong and they didn't look quite right."
Jason: "Oh they kept saying 'Guerilla' that was it. Yeah..."
Shaun: *Dalek voice* "GUE-RILLA! GUE-RILLA!"
MJ: "Hah!" *Dalek voice* "MON-KEY!" *Normal voice* "I thought that was a good one - with the house blowing up." Jason: "Oh, not much wrong with it. Eight. I mean not if it was broadcast TODAY, looking just like that. Then I'd probably go... four!"
*Laughter*
MJ: "Yeah but we're not doing it for that! Comparing it to today's..."
Jason: "In the day I'm going to give it a seven point eight two."
MJ: "Seven point eight two from Jason. Errr, Mark?" *Puts on high voice* "Ooooo I dunno!"
*Laughter*
Jason: "F**k it - eight!"
MJ: "Ahh Jason's gone eight - I'll enjoy typing up all this messing around."
*Laughter* "Shauny, baby?"
Shaun: "I'm going to give it an, erm, eight point three four one eight six."
MJ: "That's quite high."
Jason: "I'm determined to give it ten soon."
MJ: "Yeah. Leigh?"
Leigh: *High pitched Alpha Centuri squeaky voice* "I'm going to give it seven!!!!"
*Laughter*
MJ: "Awww - should I put this online as an audio!!? Just hearing Leigh's impressions - I should clip them together! Fantastic. What about you Gav?"
Gavin: "Eight. It was good, good story."
MJ: "Yes I enjoyed it too. I'd go for eight - and it was also a four parter which is always good! Now we need to get Mark to come down." *He was in the loo!*
Shaun: "Yeah."
MJ: "I should shout." *Does quietest shout ever* "Mark!"
Leigh: "That wasn't shouting!"
MJ: "Yeah well he might be getting amorous!"
*Laughter*
Leigh: "I hope not!!"
MJ: *Puts on sort of Mark voice* " 'So the guys are downstairs, but erm...' " *Normal voice* "Sorry Gavin that's your sister!" *Laughter* "You don't want to hear what he's doing up there - but there is a certain amount of plough-age!"
*Laughter*
Shaun: *Laughing* "That is - no - literally the girl's f**king brother is sat in the room and you're saying this!!?"
*Laughter*
MJ: "Yeah that's true. That's why, whenever we talk about your sister, Toni, we do it behind your back because that's what respectful things do!"
Shaun: "Thanks."
*Laughter*
MJ: "Ahhh dear."
Shaun: "The sets were quite good in that one. Quite basic but they got the idea across."
MJ: "Yeah, yeah."
Jason: "You'll be interested to know there was NO location filming at all - not a real cliff-face."
Leigh: "They filmed nowhere?"
Jason: "No LOCATION filming - I'm not saying they didn't film! It was all in the studio!"
Leigh: "Where's the studio?"
Jason: "It's a term people use in TV, alright!?"
*Leigh laughs*
Gavin: "In Elmstree, probably."
MJ: "I would have thought that when they were climbing up the mountain - well I reckon THAT would have been done elsewhere - not at the television studio."
Shaun: "But Jason said there was none!"
MJ: "No, no, no. They often put filmed work (work on film - not video tape) in a different studio."
Shaun: "Yep! He said there was none."
Jason: *Reading* " 'This story (and it's sequel 'The Monster Of Peladon') -' "
Shaun: "- Errrr spoilers!"
Jason: " '- were the only two Pertwee serials NOT to have any location filming'."
Shaun: "There we go."
MJ: "No, but film work in the other studio - like special effects and stuff - that was done on film and then edited together with the video recording in the thing (or editing suite!). So I reckon that - when they were climbing up the mountain - with the rain on them and stuff."
Jason: "Okay, shut up, MJ."
*Laughter*
Jason: *Reading* "It was shot in Studio C."
MJ: "This conversation recording's up to 34 bloody minutes!!"
Jason: "You can pause it!"
Shaun: "No I think we should continue to chat on."
MJ: "Mark, get bloody down here!!" *Mark comes back* "Marks out of ten!?"
Mark: "Marks out of ten? Erm..."
Shaun: "I'd give him a five - he's alright!"
*Laughter*
Leigh: "Oh I didn't know we were marking Mark?!"
Mark: "Erm, I dunno. I enjoyed that one. I suppose eight point two."
MJ: "Oh that's good - we all went eight, pretty much."
Leigh: "I went seven!"
MJ: "Yeah."
Mark: "You always go lower!"
MJ: "So read us out what 'The Book' thinks. That's what we thinks!"
*Mark chuckles*
*Jason reads a part that is unintelligible with an impression of Alpha Centuri*
*Huge laughter*
Jason: *Reading* " 'Sonny Caldinez and Alan Bennion resumed roles similar to the ones played in 'The Seeds Of Death'.' "
MJ: "Ahhh okay. That Sonny played - well do you remember the great big guy who helped Victoria in 'Evil Of The Daleks' through all the traps? No!"
Jason: *Reading* " 'Sorg'. Erm blah blah blah. 'Although Bennion's Ice Lord costume was new. Alpha Centuri was given a cloak by Director, Lennie Mayne, to disguise it's phallic appearance'."
*HUGE Laughter*
Shaun: "But that just added to it!!"
MJ: "Well we did say penis!" *Mark chuckles* (To Mark) "YOU said penis."
*Mark chuckles*
Jason: *Reading* " 'An adventure DRIPPING with atmosphere and featuring a memorable cast of green-skinned monsters. Pertwee and Manning are on top form - ten out of ten.' "
*Gasps of 'Oooo' and 'Wow' from us all*
MJ: "No I thought this one would be not that great but there you go. I've never seen it before....Never will again!" *Laughter* "No, I will. That was very good indeed. Well done - and no Brigadier! Or ANY of UNIT."
Jason: "No."
Gavin: "No."
Jason: "Yates got mentioned."
Mark: "Except for the one guy that died."
MJ: "What's the next one Jason?"
Jason: "Errrr I know who's in it - I saw that bit! It's the 'Adventure - "
Leigh: "- Of Portland Bill!"
Jason: " - in Time and Telly.' "
Leigh: " 'Of The Daleks'! "
*Laughter*
MJ: "Is it 'The Mutants', maybe?"
Jason: "Oh 'The Sea Devils'!"
MJ: "Ahh I've seen that one."
Shaun: "The chance for foam!"
MJ: "Basically they are relations of the Silurians."
Shaun: "Right."
Mark: "Okay."
MJ: "So there we go.....AND we get to visit The Master in jail!"
Jason: "I think I've seen that one."
MJ: "So that's nice. Okay I'm going to stop it there! Yayyyyy! Thirty-seven minutes! Bloody Hell!"
Mark: "Will The Master be behind it all again?"
MJ: "No...."
Photo 6: At Mark's house -
Jason (with the DVD case).
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Well that was a very long one! Once again I'm way behind but here were the scores:
Leigh: 7
Shaun: 8.34186
Mark: 8.2
MJ: 8
Jason: 8
Gavin: 8
Which averaged us out at 7.92364333 out of 10.
Okay that's it! Read this - tell your friends (and enemies) and until next time I shall return, yes I shall return...
MJ - 27/09/2016
