Well first thing is first - we have the recorded transcript!! We had a test run (Leigh: "This is a test!") and all was okay! So back to messing about writing our idiotic thoughts! Also all of us seemed to be too busy to meet on a Sunday this month - so we decided to meet on a couple of Friday nights! This first one was around Leigh's house with a story I had never seen before! Revenge Of The Cybermen was the first Cyberman story since Patrick Troughton's time on the show! But would it be popular? Let us find out....
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MJ: "Oh that (the recording programme on my phone) is working this time!"
Jason: "Are you sure?"
Mark: "Yes Mark Thatcher is definitely the worst Mark I can think of."
MJ: "Yes he is the worst Mark.... We are around Leigh's on a Friday night - which is madness! M-m-m-m-m-m-madness - as Muse said."
Jason: "A sunny Friday night."
MJ: "Yep. Just a four-parter. The end of Tom's first season. We couldn't manage to -"
Shaun: "Tom!?"
Leigh: "Tom?"
Shaun: "Luvvy alert!"
Leigh: "Tom who?"
Shaun: "Tom!"
Mark: "Tom."
MJ: *Smiling* "Thomas of the Baker! And, err yeah we've got Revenge Of The Cybermen - I won't give away who the enemy is in this one... Frenemy."
Mark: "Importantly, though, has French Stewart got two first names or two last names?" (French Stewart - a actor from 90's sitcom Third Rock From The Sun!)
*Shaun laughs*
Jason: "We were discussing this on the way down..." *Laughs*
MJ: "Fred Stewart?"
Jason: "FRENCH Stewart."
Leigh: "Who's French Stewart?
MJ: "Yeah?"
Shaun: "He was the squinting guy from Third Rock From The Sun. And also from Inspector Gadget."
Jason: *To MJ* "Right, do your impression of French Stewart."
MJ: *French Stewart voice* "Oh yeah! Oh yeah!"
Leigh: *Exasperated* "What's THAT got to do with Doctor Who??!"
Shaun: "EVERYTHING!!"
Jason: "We were discussing it outside."
Shaun: "He's the new Doctor!!"
*Leigh laughs*
Mark: "We were talking outside and I needed to know!"
MJ: *French Stewart voice* "Oh Dick!" *Laughs*
Leigh: "Errr, French isn't a name."
Shaun: "No."
Leigh: "Oh hang on, no, Dawn French!"
Jason: "So it's two surnames."
Shaun: "Well no it's not - his first name and last name are backwards!"
Leigh: "Yeah. It should be Stewart French."
Shaun: "Stewart French."
MJ: "Yeah." (I don't sound convinced! Maybe because they ARE also two surnames as well!)
Mark: "Okay."
Shaun: "Throwing a curve ball into this argument!" MJ: "He should be called Fred Savage! Then he would be:" *Sings* "What, would you do if I sang out of tune..."
Jason: "Maybe Fred Savage got his name the wrong way around? He's called Savage Fred!"
MJ: *Laughs* "Savage Fred! I like that! Well with that, let's watch Revenge Of The Cybermen."
Shaun: *Smiling* "Are you sure we don't have more important Doctor Who related chat?!"
MJ: "No."
Leigh: "Right, MJ, do you want me to close the curtains? Bearing in mind there ARE no curtains!?"
MJ: "You've got blinds! No it's fine!"
Jason: "I'd like to point out that French Dawn sounds like quite a nice thing!."
Mark: "Yeah."
Shaun: "Yes!"
Jason: "I'd buy that - whatever it is!"
Shaun: "It sounds like a paint! A colour of paint!"
Jason: *Laughs* "Yes! I'd buy that paint."
Leigh: "No it sounds like an uprising! You know, like the Arab Spring!"
MJ: "I was expecting it to be a movie with Arnold Schwarzenegger in."
Jason: "French Dawn?"
MJ: "Yeah. The remastering's not very good on this episode..." (we were watching it online as my DVD was in the post! I have it now - I think a day later it came in the post!)
Shaun: "A Hell of a lot better than the copy YOU don't have!!" *Laughs*
MJ: "Yeah."
Jason: "This is what the original looked like!" *Reading story credits* "Gerry Davies."
MJ: "Yeah."
Jason: "Woaah - they can't even afford a TARDIS at this point!"
MJ: "Yes, because they disappeared with the ring from The Genesis Of The Daleks planet (aka Skaro!!) didn't they?"
Leigh: "Oh yeah! The ring that they weren't going to lose..."
Shaun: "They're going back to the Wheel in Space!" (A reference to the Patrick Troughton Cybermen story The Wheel in Space)
Mark: "Yeah."
Leigh: "No I think that's Slave 1!"
*Shaun laughs*
Mark: "Is this now going to get attacked by Cybermen? 'Cos they're NOT lucky in this space station!"
MJ: "So this is Space Station Nerva - wasn't it?"
Shaun: "It's called Revenge Of The Cybermen so I'm fairly certain THAT'S what's going to happen!"
MJ: "Anyway, Part One..."
*EPISODE ONE GETS WATCHED*
Photo 1: At Leigh's house.
Leigh, Shaun, Jason (with the DVD case)
& Mark (with the upside down sign).
Leigh, Shaun, Jason (with the DVD case)
& Mark (with the upside down sign).
*The copy we are watching cuts out the cliffhanger AND the end credits!*
MJ: *Singing to make up for the lack of end credits* "DOC-TOR WHOOOOO!" *Leigh laughs* "That was the end of Part One - Oh and we're back to Episode Two straight away! Oh yeah, The Doctor's been trapped in a room with gas! And we've already seen a Cyberman or two."
Leigh: "SPACE Cyberman!"
MJ: "And Sarah's been attacked by a... well - "
Jason: "- Hand puppet!"
MJ: "- A Cybermat - but it's a weird shaped one! Let's watch Part Two!"
*EPISODE TWO GETS WATCHED*
(Blurry!) Photo 2: At Leigh's house.
Leigh, Shaun (with the sign),
MJ (with the DVD case) & Mark.
Leigh, Shaun (with the sign),
MJ (with the DVD case) & Mark.
MJ: "There you go - end of Parts One and Two. So, we probably haven't seen the cliffhanger because they showed the cliffhanger at the beginning of the next one - didn't they?"
*Leigh laughs*
Mark: "Yeah, well I don't know..."
Shaun: "No."
Jason: "No they showed it twice! They showed many cliffhangers."
MJ: "Yeah."
Shaun: "Yeah the episodes are the correct length, so they're ending where they're supposed to!"
MJ: "Oh okay..."
Jason: "No, they're supposed to end after a 'Woo-ooo-ooo' bit!"
Shaun: "They just cut all of THAT out."
MJ: "We usually see The Doctor, or the companion, with something happening to them. Not random Johnnies!" (I mean random characters - not condoms!)
Jason: "Well, random Johnnies do have to have cliffhangers too!"
Mark: "Next time, make sure you get full episodes."
Shaun: *Indignantly* "I HAVE got the full episodes!"
Jason: "Do you know what's a shame? That THAT guy's not called 'Terry Vogan'!"
MJ: "Yeah, Terry Vogan! Nooooo!!! That was MY joke! You've nicked my joke! I said THAT during the episode -"
Jason: "- I never heard you...."
MJ: *Smiling* "- and he's nicked my joke about Terry Vogan!"
Jason: "It's not your joke."
Leigh: "I think it was Jason's joke, wasn't it?!"
Shaun: *Smiling* "I'm pretty sure Jason said that!"
Leigh: "Yeah I'm sure Jason said that!" *Laughs*
MJ: "Nurrrrr! You're all meanies and poo heads!!" *Leigh laughs*
Jason: "Space Poo Heads!"
Photo 3: At Leigh's house.
The guys all do the Cyber Leader's hands-on-hips pose!
Leigh, Shaun, Jason (with the DVD case)
& Mark (with the sign).
The guys all do the Cyber Leader's hands-on-hips pose!
Leigh, Shaun, Jason (with the DVD case)
& Mark (with the sign).
MJ: "Erm, I like that the Cybermen have got guns shooting from there heads - I don't know that they've had that before?"
Jason: "Yeah but they can't do that cool thing where you shoot the gun behind you. They can't do that!" *Makes gun-type 'Pshuu' noise*
Mark: "That's the first time they've had the guns in the head."
Jason: "They still have to pull the trigger by their waist though, I think, from what I saw."
Shaun: "They did - it was from the dials on there."
Jason: "I don't know if they're supposed to have it but they ARE doing it in the show!"
Shaun: "Yeah, they are."
Jason: "Or it's just an actor pressing an effect - I don't know!" *Laughs*
Mark: *Smiling* "Probably just an actor pressing an effect."
Shaun: "Shushh! You're ruining the magic!!"
MJ: "The magic. The tragic magic. So, err, now I'm missing the titles (The copies Shaun got hold of didn't have the credits for the episodes - apart from the first and last one) I don't know which character Kevin Stoney was? If he WAS there?"
Jason: "Let's look at The Book."
Shaun: "Use your phone!!"
Leigh: "Don't use The Book!"
Shaun: "Do NOT use The Book!"
Leigh: "You can't refer to The Book before the end!!"
Shaun: "No! Bad Jason!!"
Jason: "I won't look at the end bit - just at the thing!"
Shaun: "Oh the worst Jason ever!"
Mark: *Having looked on his phone during the general malaise!* "He was Tyrum. I don't know which Tyrum is, but Tyrum!"
Jason: "I think he was the main old guy."
MJ: "Yes, that's what I was thinking."
Jason: "The Chancellor or whatever his name was - we'll look at it later." (Well he was Chief Councillor Tyrum and was the leader of the Vogans)
Shaun: "I really hope, right, well the first episode had three Cybermen, the second one had four. I'm hoping the next one has five and the last one has six!" *Laughs*
MJ: "I've never seen one with a black head before. So that's nice..." *Snorts*
Shaun: "They don't tend to get spots..."
MJ: "No!"
Shaun: "'Cos of all the metal."
MJ: "Oh and we've got two different branches of Vogans -"
Jason: "- We've got three haven't we?"
MJ: "- we've got ones which are like -"
Leigh: "- In dresses."
MJ: "In dresses."
Jason: "Oh are there just two?"
Mark: "Oh there might be three actually?"
Jason: "You had the upstairs ones. You had the women and then you had the little other ones."
Mark: "Yeah."
MJ: "Are they going to be like The Scientists and The Military or something, are we thinking?"
Jason: "Yes the Gorillas, the Orang-utans and the Chimps!"
MJ: "Haha! Yeah, at the end The Doctor's in front of the Statue Of Liberty going 'Nooo! You really did it this time!!'"
Jason: "And we had Kellman - who's killed forty seven men."
Leigh: "Kelled?!"
MJ: "Kelled!!" *Laughs*
Jason: "Don't kell me!"
MJ: "I like kelling people!!"
Jason: *We're in Leigh's back garden* "Has that building always been there?! Did it have trees in the way before?" *A plane flies overhead* "Has that plane always been there?"
Shaun: "No, it's stock footage!"
*Jason laughs*
MJ: "I hope they do that with lots of people. There's a guy called 'Boker' who's a baker. There's one called 'Botcher' who's a butcher."
Jason: "Botcher and Badger."
MJ: "Ohhh - he died the other day, didn't he?!" (Andy Cunningham has been the main guy in a kids TV show from 1989-1999 called Bodger & Badger. He had been called Simon Bodger and his sidekick was a puppet badger. Andy made NO attempt to make Badger's voice different from his own!)
Jason: "He did!"
Leigh: "Yeah, so I was told at work."
Jason: "He played both parts I believe..."
MJ: "He did 'cos he went:" *Put on same deep voice* "'Hello I'm Bodger' - 'Hello I'm Badger!' 'Oh you sound completely different...'!"
Leigh: "He was also in a relationship with the mouse."
*Sniggers*
MJ: *Confused* "What!?? What mouse??!"
Jason: "There was a mouse in Bodger & Badger."
MJ: "Was there?! I don't remember that at all. I mean everybody knows Badger loves: mashed potato!" *Put on deep voice* "Oh yeah I do!"
Leigh: "What does he do with it though?"
MJ: "Just mashes it into his cloth face and then makes a mess!"
Shaun: "Leigh was doing more of the song..."
Leigh: "Yeah, he makes it into shapes and eats it every day."
MJ: "Ohhhh. I don't remember all that."
Leigh: "Of course the special effects are just as good in Bodger & Badger!"
*Shaun laughs*
Mark: "Slightly BETTER!"
Shaun: *Smiling* "Yeah I'm pretty sure when they green-screened an image on a monitor it ACTUALLY was in frame!..."
*Laughter*
MJ: "Maybe it's BETTER on the DVD, maybe it's... no it's not! It's exactly how it is! And they're on a planet of gold!"
Jason: "On the DVD it's a wide-screen TV, so they can fit it all in."
MJ: "Is it going okay for you so far, Mark and Shauny? Shaun and Mark? You're one person!"
Mark: "It's going along okay..."
MJ: "Yeah!"
Mark: "It's...quick."
Leigh: "It's rubbish!" *Laughing* "Right, there's been like a MINUTE of Cybermen in two episodes and it's only four episodes long!!"
Mark: "Yeah but they've turned up now!"
Shaun: "It's called Revenge Of The Cybermen - it should be called Revenge Of The Gold-Meisters!"
Leigh: "For the first episode I didn't even realise that the people living on the planet of gold was even related to the plot going on on the space station!" *Laughs*
Mark: "Yeah it was like a different episode for a while."
Shaun: "Yeah I thought the Nazi guy - who YOU guys called the Nazi - and the other guys were on a completely different space station - until they (The Doctor, Sarah and Harry) suddenly showed up!"
Jason: "No they only showed one space station."
Mark: "It could be SLIGHTLY to do with us not paying attention to the episode!" *Laughs*
Shaun: "I'm paying ABJECT attention! I couldn't be paying MORE attention if I was paying MORE attention!" *Mark giggles* "That's how much attention I'm paying!!"
MJ: "That's why we call him 'Paying Attentiony Jim'!" *Laughs*
Shaun: "In Space!"
MJ: "Yes. Well it certainly does show me - 'cos I guess this would have been ripped from probably a video copy or something."
Leigh: "Or a bin!"
Shaun: "To be honest it DOES have the lines - it does look like it's ripped from a video!"
MJ: "Yeah."
Jason: "It's just like Red Dwarf. My old VHS of Red Dwarf was like that."
Leigh: "Yeah, even the uniforms!"
Jason: "The uniforms. The plot."
Shaun: "They've made it into a two-hour movie."
MJ: "Yes! Well there you go that's Parts One and Two."
Shaun: "Let's hope Parts Three and Four have some Cybermen in it!"
Jason: "They had Cybermen in!"
Shaun: "It looked good as they turned up at the end of Part Two!"
Jason: "They were in Episode One! Daleks don't even do that!" *Rubs his eye*
MJ: "Don't cry!"
Jason: "I'm allergic to gold!" *Shaun & MJ laugh* "Or granite or whatever that cliff was made of."
MJ: "Part Three."
Photo 4: At Leigh's house.
Leigh, Shaun (with the sign),
MJ (with the DVD case) & Mark.
Leigh, Shaun (with the sign),
MJ (with the DVD case) & Mark.
*EPISODE THREE GETS WATCHED & EPISODE FOUR STARTS*
Shaun: "Polystyrene boulders."
Mark: "Yeah."
MJ: "And The Doctor's also got boulders on him."
Jason: "But he's okay. He can survive anything. Except falling off a pylon!"
Shaun: "That's in, like, seven years!"
*Mark chuckles*
MJ: "And they've all got bombs strapped to them." *On screen The Doctor shouts 'Harry Sullivan is an imbecile'! We all laugh* "'Harry Sullivan is an imbecile! Part Four!"
*EPISODE FOUR GETS WATCHED*
Shaun: "See, we got the end titles!"
Jason: "So who played Kellman!?"
MJ: *Reading end credits* "Oh Ronald Leigh Hunt! He was in one before - I recognise the name!" (He was! He was in the Patrick Trougton story The Seeds Of Death from 1969)
Jason: *Reading end credits* "Kevin Stoney!"
MJ: "There you go. David Collings - I recognise that name." (He will be in a couple of stories in OUR future!)
Jason: *Reading end credits* "MICHAEL WISHER!!?!"
*Shaun cheers*
MJ: *Suprised* "Oh!? Which one was he!?"
Jason: "He was Maragret!" (Magrik!)
MJ: "Magrik? So he did well, after he was Davros the time before and then he went straight onto this one."
Leigh: "Margaret."
Shaun: "Margaret - the character who randomly disappeared!"
Leigh: "Dave Ross AND Margaret? One man??! That's amazing!!"
MJ: "Well, I can't wait to get the DVD so I can watch it!!" *Laughter* "But it was baffling! I need to watch it again because a lot of it I was like 'What??! Huh??!'"
Jason: "People shooting each other..."
Shaun: "That's because it was badly written."
Mark: "Yeah."
MJ: "It was all over the place wasn't it? It really was err..."
Leigh: "It wasn't great."
MJ: "No."
Leigh: "I think The Doctor had some good lines. I think some of the dialogue was well written."
Shaun: "I think Tom Baker is just coming more into his own, more and more per serial."
Mark: "Yeah Tom Baker is!"
Shaun: "He is massively improving. Elisabeth Sladen is getting worse 'cos of what she's been given and Harry's about the same."
Leigh: "I like Harry!"
MJ: "I like Harry."
Mark: "I don't mind Harry."
Shaun: "I quite like Harry."
Jason: "He seems intelligent: 'Cheerio, what-what! Old girl'!"
Shaun: "He's just about the same."
Mark: "Oh! I thought you meant that he was getting worse the same as Elisabeth Sladen."
Leigh: "Although, to be fair, he didn't have an awful lot to do in that one!"
MJ: "Doesn't matter! As long as he says 'I say!!', and bumbles around, I'm quite happy!"
Leigh: *Chuckles* "Old bird!"
MJ: "Old Bird!" *Laughs* "I mean the aliens looked quite -"
Shaun: "- Crap!"
MJ: "I thought they were alright?!"
Leigh: "They were FINE."
Jason: "Relatively fine - we've seen worse."
Shaun: "SOME of them were fine."
MJ: "I just didn't see a lot of point to a lot of it?"
Leigh: "No."
MJ: "It was a bit haphazard!"
Leigh: "Yeah."
Shaun: "No. Let's put it this way: the premise is Cybermen have a problem with gold. They've got this planet which they've been chased away from, which is all gold. And gold meant NOTHING to ANY of the plot in ANY WAY!!"
MJ: "No, it didn't?"
Jason: "It got them there..."
Shaun: "Yeah, do you know what I'd do?! You know, people with guns? I don't do well around them, so what I would do is: not be around them!" *Mark chuckles* "Right?! That is a planet of gold - not hard to miss! Don't be near it!"
MJ: "Yeah."
Leigh: "Nuke it from orbit - it's the only way to be sure!"
Shaun: "Thanks!"
Jason: "The Cybermen seemed alright when they were there!"
MJ: *Surprised* "Yeah??"
Shaun: "Yeah actually they don't know how space works! 'Cos, right, they had all of these bombs and all you do is you kind of like, from a couple of thousand of light years away, aim your porthole about where the planet is - they've got to have that kind of space - put the bombs out the airlock, they'll just keep going until they hit it!" *Claps*
Jason: "It's never been established that Cybermen know how space works."
*Laughter*
Shaun: *Smiling* "But they don't know how, using two bombs that will destroy an entire planet works! Considering one of them did NO damage at all except to the guy it was strapped to and the two people directly around him!!"
Jason: "That's what he said. One will do nothing. Two bombs will destroy the cavern."
Shaun: *Laughing* "He did not remotely say that!"
Jason: "Three bombs will -"
Mark: "- Destroy the universe!!!"
Leigh: "I'm sure that's from a song!" *Singing* "One bomb will do nothing, two bombs make you talk!" *Jason and Shaun laugh* "But the bombs that, Mother gave you..."
Shaun: *Singing* "...Will blow up nothing at all!" *Leigh laughs*
Jason: "I was mainly impressed with Leigh and his term 'Space Macarena'! No, Sorry CYBER Macarena."
Mark: "Cyber Macarena."
MJ: "I was disappointed with Kevin Stoney - I mean I've really enjoyed his two villains before and this one seemed to give him a really rubbish part and they dress him up so can't see who he is."
Jason: "I thought he was good. I quite like the old geezers!"
MJ: *Makes grumbly noise* "Mmm I don't know...."
Shaun: *Laughing* "I think it's really rubbish that we were promised a Glitter Gun and a unicorn battalion! And we didn't get ANY of them!"
*Laughter*
MJ: "Yeah we didn't see the Glitter Gun!"
Jason: *Smiling* " I don't think you were promised them. I think you read into it a bit much!"
Mark: "Yeah."
Shaun: "We were PROMISED a Glitter Gun!"
MJ: "We were."
Shaun: *Smiling* "Me and Leigh MAY have elaborated the rest of it!"
Jason: "They said 'In the past there was a Glitter Gun'."
Leigh: "But I'm not sure whether the Glitter Gun was supposed to be him taking the piss or-"
Jason: "- I think it was!"
Leigh: "- or that's actually what it was?"
Shaun: "No, no. I'm assume it was! It was a gun that fired bits of gold!"
Mark: "That's what it was!"
Jason: "They made THAT - that's exactly what it is - he, mockingly, refers to it as a 'Glitter Gun'."
Shaun: "I refuse to believe that. I think they made a Glitter Gun."
Jason: "No, there were no Rainbow Armies on unicorns firing Glitter Guns!"
Mark: *Laughing* "There was DEFINITELY a Rainbow Battalion on unicorns."
Shaun: *Laughing* "They FLOUNCED across the battlefield to meet their enemies!!"
*Leigh laughs*
MJ: "How did you find the Cybermen?"
Shaun: "Terrible."
MJ: "Terrible? You didn't like these ones?"
Shaun: "I didn't like much of ANY of that - so that's mostly my answer to everything."
Leigh: "I wouldn't say they were 'terrible'!"
Shaun: "They didn't look as good as they had before. They sounded - I mean you could understand them, which was nice - but they didn't SOUND like Cybermen at all -"
MJ: "- No..."
Shaun: "- AND their plan was awful! And the putting of it together. AND they don't understand how bombs work!" *Laughs*
Leigh: "They looked fine. I will say they looked fine."
Shaun: "I thought they looked less well-made than before?"
Jason: "They had shooty-things on their heads and they stood their hands on their hips."
MJ: "They DID stand with their hand on their hips!!?"
*Leigh chuckles*
Jason: "They love a screen-saver."
MJ: "Yeah..." *Laughs*
Leigh: "Erm, but yeah their plan doesn't make any sense, and the voice, while easier to understand, was less scary."
MJ: "It was. I didn't find it... I thought it was just a bit - nurr. I dunno."
Mark: "I want the original voice back."
MJ: "Yeah."
Shaun: "And that weird brain thing! What happened to that weird brain thing?" (Something the Cybermen had in the Patrick Troughton era Cyberman story The Invasion)
MJ: "What weird brain thing?"
Shaun: "In the last couple of Cybermen stories there was a weird kind of hive-mind, brain thing, that was always lurking around."
Mark: "Oh yes, the one in charge - wasn't it? I assumed that had been destroyed in the last Cybermen story."
Shaun: "Yeah but there could have been more of them!"
Jason: "I would have liked them to start converting humans into Cybermen."
MJ: "Yeah."
Jason: "That's the whole point of Cybermen. Their like zombies."
Shaun: "Yes."
Jason: "They were not doing THAT - they were just THERE going 'I don't like gold'!"
*Laughter*
MJ: "Yeah 'cos usually their trying to invade and take over or stuff and this one they just seemed a bit like... 'cos if they don't LIKE the planet of gold: don't GO to the planet of gold!!"
Shaun: "Stay far away from the planet of gold!!"
Mark: "That was just the first part of the plan: Destroy the planet of gold where all the gold is, and THEN they can invade everything else!"
Shaun: "Except they may have gold - like Earth has!"
Leigh: "I thought the planet of gold was the thing that defeated them beforehand - because they had the resources of that planet."
Shaun: *Laughing* "I'm just imagining a gold planet glove puppet going 'Oi, Cybermen, get out my bloody sector! I'll 'ave you!' Head-butted their fleet!"
Jason: "Right, so now we've finished the story we can work out what the plot was!"
*Leigh laughs*
Shaun: "Yes!"
Blurry Photo 5: At Leigh's house.
Leigh, Shaun (with the sign),
MJ (with the DVD case) & Mark.
Leigh, Shaun (with the sign),
MJ (with the DVD case) & Mark.
Jason: "So the plan WAS to blow-up the ammunitions on the planet?"
All: "Yes."
Jason: "Right! With I'm with you!"
MJ: "Oh right then! Ten out of ten!"
*Leigh laughs*
Shaun: "But Earth has gold!?"
Jason: "Not as much as a gold planet!!"
*Laughter*
Mark: "But that's like a big BIG planet of gold!"
Shaun: "Yeah?"
Mark: "They never run out! They won't run out."
Shaun: "But, no, all you need to do is set a battalion around them and stop any ammunitions from leaving that planet! That pretty much solves THAT problem!"
Mark: "I'm trying to make sense of this nonsense!! Shut up!"
Shaun: "I wanted a gold Cyberman! I was very disappointed!"
Mark: *Laughing* "There will NOT be a gold Cyberman! They're allergic to it!!"
Jason: "The other guy in beige, did he die in the end? I don't think he did."
Leigh: "No. General Dondonna or whatever he is?" (WHAT??)
Jason: "The one that looks like he's from Bonanza! That one."
MJ: "HAH! I suppose he does! So what would you give that, score wise, then?"
*Jason makes blowy-lip-horse-noise*
Mark: "Four."
MJ: "Four from Mark."
Mark: "Yeah four. That was not good."
Leigh: "I'm going to give it a six."
MJ: "I'm thinking six too."
Leigh: "I thought it wasn't great but I did think The Doctor had some good dialogue, so..."
MJ: "Mm."
Mark: "Thats why I upped to four..."
MJ: "I think I'm going to go, as I say, six as well. That was my immediate thought -"
Jason: "- Five!"
*Some 'Ooo's'*
MJ: "Well done."
Jason: "That's halfway."
MJ: "And Shaun?"
Shaun: "No, we've agreed many times, Jason, THAT is essentially YOUR two out of ten!"
Jason: "No it isn't!"
*Laughter*
Shaun: "You think six and seven is about fine."
Jason: "No, when we started Tom Baker I started on a five -"
Shaun: "- Oh okay."
Jason: "- To re-balance myself."
Shaun: "I liked Robot a lot more than that!"
MJ: "Yeah I did!"
Jason: "Yeah well I might not have - I don't know. Shut up! What did I give it, MJ?"
Shaun: "He's written them all down!"
Jason: "I know!"
MJ: *Looks at piece of paper* "Errr you gave Robot -"
Shaun: "- Nine."
MJ: "- Seven."
Jason: "Seven?"
Shaun: "There you go. I think that's about fine! Robot was pretty good."
Mark: "What did I give it?"
MJ: "Seven."
Jason: "Well I think, based on that, this is alright. It's just not... well it doesn't make any sense!"
Mark: "It's nonsense."
Jason: "But I still feel that about the current (2017) series! A lot of the time..."
MJ: "So..."
Jason: "Pen's out!"
MJ: "Yes I'm going to write these down! So MJ said six and Leigh said six. And you said - what did you say, Jay?"
Jason: "Five!"
MJ: "Five, and Shaun said?"
Shaun: "I'm going to give it a three."
MJ: "Three." *Chuckles* "Wow!"
Shaun: "I thought it was terrible!! I'm sorry!"
Jason: "You had a discount Master - with the Nazi guy!"
Shaun: "No we didn't!" *Leigh laughs* "How DARE you say such a thing!? How DARE you even COMPARE him to the wonderful can't-remember-the-real-actors-name-for-a-second!"
MJ: "Roger Delgado."
Shaun: "Roger Delgado, yes! The MASTERful Roger Delgado!"
MJ: "Well that's not very good, but what did The Book say? Perhaps it was generous? Perhaps it LOVED it?!"
Jason: "Yes, let's see what The Book says!"
Shaun: "It would be a FOOL!"
Jason: "An epic adventure of space and time -"
Shaun: "- Actually THAT was so bad it was a BIGGER disappointment than today's electorial result!!" *Laughter* "Actually it was nowhere near that bad! It was like a MINUS ten!"
Mark: "I thought you'd be happy? You like crap robots..."
*Shaun gives a BIG laugh*
MJ: "Yes as of today, 2017, Theresa May got in as Prime Minister - JUST! Jeremy Corbyn did alright - our Jedi friend."
Jason: "Right Revenge Of The Cybermen - Yayyyyy. Oh I've seen the answer!"
Shaun: *Laughs* "Twenty seven out of ten!"
Jason: *Reading from The Book* "'Returning to Nerva, in the past, The Doctor discovers Cybermats have poisoned the crew... The interior of Voga was filmed at -'" *Excited voice* "'- Wookey Hole Caves in Somerset!!!'"
*Cheers*
MJ: "I've been there."
Jason: "So have I!" (MJ & Jason both went on a college trip there!) *Reading from The Book* "'For Nerva, re-dressed sets were used from The Ark In Space. New Cybermats were designed by Jim Ward, whilst Alistair Bowtell built four seventies-style Cybermen costumes, complete with flares!'"
MJ: "I didn't like the Cybermats."
Mark: "They had flares?"
MJ: "Oh they meant on their head (the shooting device)! Not trousers!!"
Shaun: "Yeah that's what I was thinking!"
Jason: "I didn't look at their feet. I wanna go back!" *Reading from The Book* "'Verdict: A good first part, and the cave locations are excellent -'"
Shaun: "- But they were supposed to be gold!!?"
Jason: *Reading from The Book* "'- but Christopher Robbie is a very emotive Cyberman and the effects are variable. Five out of ten'. That's not - that's... he just gives up halfway through his review!"
*Laughter*
Leigh: "Yeah, yeah it does sound like it!"
Shaun: "Yeah much like the serial, he got bored of his own idea and just thought 'Ahh f**k it'!!"
Jason: "There's stuff."
MJ: "Who was it who wrote it, sorry?"
Leigh: "Christopher Robbie... Orson Welles..."
Jason: "Was it Hinchcliffe? No, not Hinchcliffe - the other guy! No Christopher Robbie IS the emotive Cyberman!"
MJ: "Oh."
Jason: "Also is Pat Gorman."
MJ: *Reading in The Book* "Oh writer -" *High shocked voice* "No!? Robert Holmes wrote it!!?" (No, I must have misread as he was script editor!)
Jason: *Mimicking MJ's high shocked voice* "Yeah!"
*Leigh laughs*
MJ: *Incredulous* "But that was crap??!"
Shaun: "Were there more writers?" *Reading in The Book* "Oh 'From an IDEA by Gerry Davis."
MJ: "Oh. So he probably had to make it workable."
Shaun: "Yeah. They probably got the really s**t version of that and thought 'Oh, I've got to make something of this'!"
Mark: "Was Gerry Davis just a fan who wrote it?"
Jason: "Michael Wisher played Magrik."
MJ: "I'm sure Gerry Davis wrote some of the previous Cybermen stories that were quite good....I think?"
Shaun: "So, if I can ask a question, is it quite a well known thing that the Cybermen's weakness is gold?"
MJ: "It was only established in THIS story and then it went on to..."
Shaun: "Yeah, yeah, yeah."
Jason: "Did they not have that at the end of the last one?"
Mark: "I'm not sure?..."
Shaun: "So they did a really, really bad job of establishing that!"
Jason: "I thought they did it at the end of the last one?"
MJ: "No they didn't."
Jason: "Well what was the last one?"
MJ: "The Invasion was the last one."
Leigh: "No, no, no, they set it up when Ace fired a gold doubloon from a catapult!"
*Laughter*
MJ: "That's in the future! Well, there we go! That's the end of that one and we met on a Friday - so that was nice! Okay join us next time for Terror Of The Zygons!"
Jason: *High pitched* "Is it?"
MJ: "Which will be a new series!"
Shaun: "The Zygons? Are they the -"
Jason: "- Big orange sponge things!"
MJ: "Yeah, yeah. Back on Earth as well."
Shaun: "I quite look forward to seeing them."
Leigh: "Is there going to be foam in it?!"
Jason: "Hope so!"
Mark: "There MIGHT be."
Leigh: "I like a bit of foam."
Shaun: "It sounds like The Brigadier is coming back and, I've got to be honest, I didn't think I would miss him as much as I am! I'm REALLY looking forward to seeing him again! So if he's NOT in it I'm going to be REALLY annoyed!"
MJ: "No he is, I believe."
Shaun: "Yayyy!"
Leigh: "Be nice to have a competent companion -"
Jason: "- Oh shut up!"
Leigh: "- Who doesn't get a headache when they think!"
Shaun: *Smiling* "He's a part of UNIT! How can you use 'Competent' in the same sentence!!??"
Jason: "Sarah won't get a headache next week! Next week she'll be intelligent!"
MJ: "Readers: I like Sarah Jane."
Leigh: "I don't!"
Shaun: "I think she's very good, she's just had some poor writing."
MJ: "See you next time. Bye." *Laughs*
Photo 6: At Leigh's house.
Leigh, Shaun, Jason (with the DVD case)
& Mark (with the sign).
All doing the Cyber-Leader pose!
Leigh, Shaun, Jason (with the DVD case)
& Mark (with the sign).
All doing the Cyber-Leader pose!
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So there we go! That was when we watched a low thought of story on a Friday night!
Well here are those low scores again:
Shaun: 3
MJ: 6
Jason: 5
Leigh: 6
Mark: 4
Mark: 4
Right, my little macaroons, I'm off! We have already watched the next two stories so I am behind again! So I'd best get a shift on!
Join us again, until then I shall return, yes, I shall return....
MJ - 21/07/2017
