A return to Peladon greeted us on our penultimate Pertwee and it was another story I hadn't seen. I think we were all excited to return to Peladon - not so much for the ACTUAL planet - but so we could hear Leigh doing his amazing impression of Alpha Centuri! SO we gathered around Shaun's on a Saturday night - of all things! Yes a Saturday evening, for another round of 'Doctor Who Nights'....
Oh and Gavin was there too. And Mummy made the gravy....
Mark: "How many parts is this one?"
Shaun: *In the glummest voice ever* "Six."
MJ: "I know." *Laughs*
Mark: "I didn't bring enough beer!"
MJ: "Oh well, never mind." *Leigh chuckles* "Anyway we're around Shaun's. It's Saturday evening -" *Starts singing* "Saturday night at the Shauny's - who cares what picture we see?" *Stops singing* "I do! 'Cos we're doing Doctor Who in order! And if we decided to watch 'Blackadder' now that would TOTALLY mess up my 'Watching Doctor Who In Order'! We're watching 'Monster Of Peladon' - the sequel. So we can hear Leigh's impression - well, you can't hear if you're reading this though -" *Leigh laughs* "- Leigh's impression of Alpha Centuri which HE'S forgotten, so the joy of seeing the big one-eyed monster will be hilarious." *Laughter* "Ahh" *Mournfully* "I can smell the beer." *Singing as DVD menu starts playing the theme* "Doctor Whooo -"
Leigh: "Nights."
MJ: "Nights!" *Leigh laughs* "Oh wow! Yes!"
Jason: "How are we going to top THIS for the final Pertwee?"
MJ: "This isn't the final?"
Jason: "I KNOW it's not the final - the final would have been... 'Nights'!"
MJ: "Ahh yes."
Shaun: "Why would the final one have been 'Nights'?"
Leigh: "'Cos we'd have to have a celebration."
Jason: "We usually do that for the last Doctor's episodes."
Shaun: "Well we can do that anyway!"
Jason: "I say 'usually' - we've done it twice!"
Leigh: "Well there's only been two previous Doctors."
Shaun: "Yeah."
Jason: "Well that's what I mean! It's not really a pattern!"
*Leigh laughs*
Mark: "Well I think that already makes it a tradition."
Shaun: "I suppose we've got to really, haven't we?" *Laughs* "Even though it will be, quite literally, the next one!"
Mark: "Black Friday became traditional before it even happened in the country!"
*Jason laughs*
MJ: "That's right!"
Mark: "So that's, you know.... we got way ahead of that."
Shaun: "Right, MJ, you want tea?"
MJ: "Yes please." (Everyone was drinking beer except me who was driving! I had to be up early the next day!)
Shaun: "Oh f**k. I hate you!"
*MJ laughs*
Jason: "Have you got any milk in?"
Shaun: "I have! I specifically messaged him, when he said he wasn't going to be able to drink."
MJ: "He did!"
Jason: "What a host!"
MJ: "Thank you very much. Okay I'll pause it there - this is just nonsense."
*Leigh laughs*
*RECORDING GETS RESUMED*
MJ: "Okay Part One!"
Shaun: "It's the Beer Fridge!"
MJ: "We're on about the Beer Fridge!" (Shaun has an extra fridge in the living room just for beer!) "I'm the only one drinking tea - everybody else is on beer or juice.
Leigh: "Which you haven't explained yet, Jason. Why are you on orange juice?"
Jason: "I'm pregnant."
MJ: "No, WE'RE pregnant!"
*Laughter*
Jason: "All of us?!"
*PART ONE HAS STARTED
MJ: *Looking at a castle on screen* "Yayyyyy!!! The model shot, again, of the Peladon Castle!"
Leigh: "That's not even a model! That's a drawing!"
Jason: *Looking on screen* "Badger People! I like Badger People."
Mark: "Is the one in the middle Kevin Eldon?"
*Jason and Shaun laugh*
MJ: *Deadpan* "Sorry, who?"
Mark: "The ACTOR Kevin Eldon!"
MJ: "Thank you!" *Laughs*
Shaun: "Why's he (the guy on screen) so afraid of Aggedor? Didn't that get resolved?"
MJ: "Who was Aggedor? Was he the King?" (Aggedor had been the beast that lived beneath the castle in 'The Curse Of Peladon')
*Jason starts singing 'Aggedor' to the tune of 'Agadoo'*
Shaun: *Wrongly* "It was David Prowse."
MJ: "Ahh okay, spirit. So he's dead now - this is in the future?"
Jason: "No."
Leigh: "David Prowse was a Minotaur wasn't he?" (Leigh is correct! In 'The Time Monster')
MJ: "Ohhhh! Sorry I was thinking David Troughton! Anyway Part One."
*PART ONE GETS WATCHED*
Photo 1: At Shaun's house.
MJ, Leigh, Gavin (with the sign),
Jason (with the DVD case) and Mark.
(It ends with The Doctor and Blor, the Queen's Champion, entering the tunnels to investigate Aggedor's last appearance. The Doctor and Blor enter a cave finds a rich vein of trisilicate. Suddenly, rock fall occurs, caused by Ettis. Aggedor then appears and kills Blor, then turns on the Doctor...)
Shaun: "So it's not hard to be the champion Blor."
Mark: "To be fair the guards DO look pretty awful." *Laughs* "They get disarmed very easily!"
Shaun & Jason: *Reading and credits* "Ysanne Churchman!"
Jason: "What else has she been in? Also voice Soo the panda!?"
*Leigh laughs*
MJ: "Who's that? Sorry, what?"
Leigh: "Ysanne Churchman."
MJ: "Alpha Centuri?"
Jason: "Yeah."
MJ: "Alright, yeah."
Shaun: "Ahem! What does she do, Leigh?"
Leigh: *High pitched Alpa Centuri voice* "The voice of Alpha Centuri!"
*Cheers*
MJ: "Erm, I like Aggedor-dor-dor, push pineapples shake a tree!"
*Laughter*
Shaun: "If you're making THAT one specifically for the recording then do your badger joke again!"
MJ: "Ohh - what was the badger joke again?"
Jason & Mark: "Don't badger The Doctor."
MJ: "Oh, don't badger The Doctor - 'cos some of them looked like badgers. The guys who worked in the mine. They didn't do mime. And The Doctor, at the end, got harassed by an appearing monster thing."
Jason: "It was Aggedor!"
Shaun: "Aggedor! Alf!"
MJ: *Seeing Episode Two titles start* "Oh and I just thought! Brian Hayles (also) wrote 'The Seeds Of Death' which also had that guy in it - the cowardly guy. Perhaps he liked him!" (I am wrong here - I was thinking of Terry Scully who played the cowardly Fewsham in the Troughton story 'The Seeds Of Death'. The character I'm thinking of in this story, Eckersley, was played by Donald Gee - who had been in another Troughton story 'The Space Pirates')
Shaun: "He's in charge of casting is he?"
MJ: "Well I don't know!" *Laughs* "Part Two." *A character on screen grunts* "Oh yes the King's Champion (well Queen's Champion in THIS story - Blor) can't speak. He's had his tongue cut out - like the last one had (Grun - in 'The Curse Of Peladon')."
Jason: "You ASSUME that."
Leigh: "You think!"
MJ: "I think."
Leigh: "We don't know that."
MJ: "No." *Something explodes on screen* "Oh no, that's blown it!"
Mark; "Were you WAITING for that!?"
*Laughter*
MJ: "I just thought of it! Part Two."
*PART TWO GETS WATCHED*
Photo 2: At Shaun's house.
Leigh, Shaun,Gavin,
Jason (with the DVD case in his feet)
and Mark (with the sign).
and Mark (with the sign).
MJ: "Ooo end of Part Two and The Doctor's been thrown down into the pit with Sarah Jane and Eckersley and there's a monster there! I reckon it will be the same monster from before ('The Curse Of Peladon') and he'll probably recognise The Doctor and go 'Awww you're my fwiend'!"
Shaun: "Well, it is a very Doctor Who style resolution, to a cliff-hanger, for that to happen."
MJ: "Well, if that's what happens!"
Jason: "It would be worse if he just wanders off!"
Mark: "Which would certainly be more likely."
MJ: "For the audio, I did make some hilarious jokes during that but obviously I didn't have it on. So..."
Jason: "Just imagine - if you will."
Shaun: "And obviously none of us were listening."
Mark: *Laughing* "Yeah I didn't hear a single one of those!"
MJ: "Who are you looking for, Jason? Who played Alpha Centuri?"
Jason: "What else has she been in?!"
Leigh: "I don't know."
Jason: "She was also in 'Smokey & The Bandit' as -"
MJ: "- Sally Field!" *Laughs*
Jason: *Laughing* "Sally Field!"
Mark: "Is she in the costume of just the voice?"
MJ: "No, no. In the costume was a guy, I think. The woman did the voice."
Shaun: "Yeah the voice is credited separately."
Leigh: *Looking on his phone* "She's been in 'The Archers'."
*MJ sings a burst of 'The Archers' theme tune*
Mark: "It's a very distinctive voice..." (I doubt she did the SAME voice - but you never know....)
*Jason tries to do the voice - and makes Mark giggle*
Jason: "A little while ago I was looking at the Queen (Thalira) and she's reminding me of the, err, Queen from 'Blackadder II'."
MJ: "Oh yes."
Shaun: "Miranda Richardson?"
Jason: "And now I can't stop seeing it. It's the way she keeps talking in that baby-voice."
MJ: "Yes it IS quite a baby-like voice."
Leigh: "Fun fact!"
MJ: "Okay I'm all for fun!"
Shaun: "It had better be fun!"
Jason: "Twenty-four badgers were trained for this serial!"
*Shaun laughs*
Leigh: "Ysanne Churchman, as of the 1st October 2014, was the oldest living actress to have appeared in 'Doctor Who'!" (As I type this she is a couple of months away from being 92)
Shaun: "Wow!"
MJ: "Ohhh!"
Jason: "Okay."
Leigh: "Closely followed by Honor Blackman and June Whitfield."
Shaun: "From what Jason just said, I thought of the best ending to this, Leigh. Harry Hill shows up and calls for a Badger Parade!"
*Laughter*
Shaun: "I shall put the kettle on, have a fag and prepare for Part Three."
MJ: "Parts Three to Four. I haven't thought about the Badger Parade for ages!" *We then talk about Harry Hill for a while and then...* "So, the plot and stuff?"
Jason: "Erm, it's alright. Stuff's happening."
Mark: "It's moving along quite quickly, which is nice."
Jason: "I'm not keen on the direction. I think a lot of the compositions of shots are a bit shite. There's a lot of arse shots as well!"
MJ: "Arse shots?"
Jason: "We keep getting bums to camera a lot and there's a lot of short dresses as well - on the blokes."
Mark: "Yeah."
Jason: "And even the ones that aren't wearing them have badger bums! There's things like: you usually get people standing in a particular format or a way in the shot and they just have people behind people and then people just go halfway across the camera and then off. I'm not happy with that."
Shaun: "I will tell you what this is now reminding me of - 'cos it's been bugging me since the first one. I've just remembered. There was one we watched, a little while ago - "
Jason: *Laughing* "'Peladon'?!"
*Shaun laughs*
Leigh: *Deadpan* "'The Curse of Peladon'?!"
Mark: "It remind ME of the 'The Curse of Peladon'!!" *Chuckles*
MJ: "Yeah, that was called 'The Ark' - a William Hartnell story. With Dodo and Peter Purves."
Shaun: "Yeah and that's kind of what this one is - only not as good."
MJ: "It's weird I call them 'Dodo and Peter Purves' - I don't called him Steven!" *Laughs*
"One the character - one the actor!"
Jason: "Because: what else would you know her from?"
MJ: "Well that's exactly it!"
Jason: "He's off 'Blue Peter'."
MJ: "Her name's" *For some reason put on a Scouser accent* "Her name's Jackie Lane!" *Normal voice* "I'm going to do it in a Liverpudlian accent." *Scouser accent* "Jackie Lane! Oh no, Jackie! Quick - the Bizzies!"
Jason: "Yeah. I'm pleased you call her Dodo."
MJ: "Actually she was Liverpudlian in her first story, wasn't she!?"
Shaun: "What you need to do is change the accents halfway through the sentence!" *Laughs*
Mark: "Wasn't she in the first episode of the first story she was in and by the second episode she wasn't?" (Close - in her LAST story, 'The War Machines' she was in the first Episode and then they wrote her out!)
Shaun: "Yeah a couple of episodes after the first story-arc they got ride of her."
MJ: "No when they got rid of her in 'The War Machines' she was in the first episode - or two - she went mental and then went for a long rest in the country and then The Doctor was told 'Oh yeah - she's not coming back'."
Shaun: "Yeah."
MJ: "'She's decided to stay'! Anyway I'm not talking about the back-story for that one! We'll talk about the rest later! Part Three in a bit!"
*Recording gets stopped but then restarted so I can relay some plot*
MJ: "Oh yes there's a room where nobody's allowed in. There's something in there, but we don't know what. There's going to be something sinister."
Shaun: "The guy who is above Alpha Centuri, who is the Delegate from the United Planets - or whatever it's called - has said 'There's definitely nothing in there!' And we've seen that there's something in there!"
MJ: "Ahh okay."
Jason: "And, for the benefit of the recording, Shaun is definitely wearing a Cyberman t-shirt!" *Shaun laughs* "He changed before the photos though!"
*Shaun and Mark laugh*
Shaun: "'Cos I'm such a diva, that I need to change my t-shirt between every couple of episodes! 'Cos we're at my house!"
MJ: "And that's that. Part Three."
*PART THREE GETS WATCHED*
Photo 3: At Shaun's house.
MJ (I think I'm doing Ice Warrior hands?!),
Leigh, Gavin (with the sign),
Jason (with the DVD case) and Mark.
Leigh, Gavin (with the sign),
Jason (with the DVD case) and Mark.
*We re-join the recording with Leigh laughing*
MJ: "So end of Part Three and the big reveal is there is an Ice Warrior behind the door that The Doctor couldn't get behind."
Jason: "A 'Nice Warrior'?"
Leigh: "A 'NICE Warrior'!?"
MJ: "Yes."
Shaun: "He WAS a nice warrior! He wasn't the bad guy!"
Jason: "He might be this time!"
Shaun: "It seems unlikely!"
Jason: "Well the other guy was locked up for years and he went MENTAL!"
Shaun: "What other guy?"
Jason: "The one that lost his body - in 'The Three Doctors'."
MJ: "Oh Omega!"
Shaun: "Omega!"
*Leigh laughs*
Jason: "Well he was locked in a room for ages!"
Shaun: *Smiling* "He wasn't 'locked in a room'! He was sucked into a black hole -"
Jason: "- It's a very similar set of circumstances - "
Shaun: "- and his consciousness was maintaining the illusion of reality!!"
Mark: *Chuckling* "I think you'll find they're VERY different circumstances!"
Shaun: *Laughing* "It's very different to being 'locked in a room'!!"
*Mark laughs*
Jason: "Have YOU ever been locked in a room!!?"
*Leigh laughs*
Shaun: "YES! Of course I've been locked in a room!! How do you think I go to the toilet when Pete's in the house!?? I lock myself in a room!!"
Jason: "HE doesn't lock you in the room!"
MJ: "Yeah, this is all very NOT Doctor Who!" *Laughter* I'm still recording this shite!" *Mark laughs* "So just because there's an Ice Warrior, doesn't mean that they're bad. At the end of the last story they were good - they weren't bad."
Jason: "Okay."
MJ: "Part Four!"
*PART FOUR GETS WATCHED*
Photo 4: At Shaun's house.
Leigh, Shaun,Gavin,
Jason (with the DVD case in his feet)
and Mark (with the sign).
and Mark (with the sign).
MJ: "End of Episode Four - we've got two more, so..."
Jason: "I'm still not impressed by the guards."
Mark: "They're actually FILLING this one. Like in comparison to SOME!"
Shaun: "I will give you that!"
Mark: "Yeah it's like they've not put an episode in for no reason."
Shaun: "There's not an episode of them crossing a cavern!"
Leigh: "No, there has been plenty going on."
Shaun: "The Doctor has to get back from the exploded cave."
Mark: "Yeah that's fine. I've still, as yet, to find out the ACTUAL plan of the people that are planning things."
Shaun: "Yes!"
Leigh: "They want to steal all the Tri - whatever it is -"
Mark: "Yeah, but is it for themselves? Or the other side? Or is it -"
Leigh: "- Yes."
Mark: "Oh, I missed that. Sorry..."
Shaun: "It's for both!"
Mark: "It's for both?"
Leigh: "Either."
Mark: "Either? So they can sell it to the highest bidder?"
Leigh: "Pick one!"
Mark: "I don't know. Right okay...."
*Leigh laughs*
Mark: "Well we DO know the plan - but I missed that!"
*Leigh laughs*
*Leigh and Mark laugh*
Mark: "I'm enjoying this one. It's moving along at a reasonable pace - it's not utterly POINTLESS! Like the last one."
MJ: "Beer's helping." *Leigh laughs* "I'll bet."
*Mark makes a sort of agreeing sound*
*After a brief discussion about some beer there is silence until...*
Leigh: *Laughing* "Shouldn't you be saying something now!?"
MJ: "Errrrrrr... nothing to say."
Mark: "Even YOU have given up!"
*Laughter*
MJ: "Yeah - I'll talk after it. Actually I will say, are we actually enjoying the story?"
Jason: "I don't know - is my answer!" *Leigh laughs loudly* "I've already decided my score, which is about an average score, because I AM enjoying it but I don't know if that is because of what's happening or just because - "
MJ: "- Because it's 'Baywatch Nights'?!"
Jason: "- I don't - all these f**king security camera on the wall, they're all filming one square foot of floor, I think." *Leigh laughs* "You don't need THAT many cameras!"
Shaun: *Referring to one of his many cats* "Jason, he's more scared of you, than you are of him."
Jason: "I really am."
MJ: "Is that Gavin?"
Jason: "Yeah!" *Laughter* "To the story's credit, I do acknowledge how well they do act around that giant penis!" (Alpha Centuri) *Huge laughter* "I am taking it very seriously! If I was Elisabeth Sladen I would not be that good. Well, to be fair, I'm not an actor anyway."
*Leigh laughs*
Shaun: "I'm going to put this out there: you don't look that good."
Leigh: "She doesn't look great!"
MJ: "Aww! I think she's pretty!"
Jason: "She's not rocking the Suzi Quatro hair as much as last time."
MJ: "Erm, she plays it very seriously. Like you're faced with the big one-eyed penis -"
Jason: "It's practically there (right next to her). She's got a one-eyed penis and a helmet!"
MJ: "Walked into a bar..."
Jason: "Circumcised or uncircumcised." *Laughter* "If your penis is green."
Shaun: "As mine is!"
Jason: "The Poddington Penis!"
*Laughter - especially loudly from Leigh who really appreciated the joke!*
Shaun: "I VERY much hope you recorded that! 'Cos that HAS to be in the write-up!"
MJ: "I have!"
Jason: "You're recording!!?"
MJ: "Yeah I recorded this bit 'cos I thought we'd probably talk about - "
Leigh: *Laughing* "- Something VAGUELY related to Doctor Who, maybe!!"
Shaun: "We were!"
Leigh: "We talked about the Poddington Penis!!"
Shaun: *Laughing* "Yeah, 'cos it was a brilliant joke!"
Jason: "Obviously the one on the right is the BAD penis 'cos it's the darker one - as it was in 'The Poddington Peas'!"
MJ: "Oh yes! Black-Eyed Pea?"
Jason: "Black-Eyed Pea. Not Fergie and erm - "
MJ: "William?" (Said hilariously as 'William' and not 'Will.i.am') "Wasn't William in The Black-Eyed Peas?" *Laughs*
Jason: "Yes, William."
Mark: "William."
*Mark and Jason laugh*
MJ: "Where is the love? Erm, Fergie, Andy, Beatrice -" *Laughs along with Jason and Mark* "- William and Kate Middleton: The Poddington Peas." *Singing* "The Poddington Peas!"
Mark: *Laughing* "And Kate Middleton!?"
*After some more 'Poddington Peas' chat, where we try to name them (Jason tried for 'Crap-pea' which makes us laugh. I said there was one that slept a lot called 'Nap-pea'...) and then sing the theme tune, we move onto Part Five...*
*PART FIVE GETS WATCHED*
MJ: "That's the end of Part Five and Jason's impressed with the melting door, which the Ice Warriors are trying to get through."
Jason: "I'm always impressed with the melting of the door! My favourite of the effects!"
MJ: "And erm, I don't know what I can say about that one! Stuff happened!"
*Leigh laughs loudly*
Shaun: "And we finally figured out that Eckersley is behind everything - he was the bad guy!"
MJ: "Oh yes, he's the bad guy."
Jason: "He's not the BAD guy he's just misunderstood."
Shaun: "He's not misunderstood!! He wants to control Earth!"
Jason: "Well that's nice - taking control. That's a good thing - you need someone like that!"
Leigh: "Like Donald Trump?"
Shaun: "Yeah! Theresa May."
Leigh: "Triceratopses."
Jason: "Put things back in order!"
Mark: *Laughing* "I'm going to try for a Triceratops!"
MJ: "Okay Part Six - let's see what goes down, in Groove Town."
Mark: "I thought it was on Peladon?"
MJ: "Yes, it is Peladon..."
Mark: "So where's this Groove Town?"
*PART SIX HAS STARTED*
MJ: "So 'MJ Commentary' on: Yes, so this Ice Warrior was played by Malcolm Egghead. He played most of the monsters in the classic series. THAT was his classic 'Look to both sides, slightly'."
Jason: "You should do this for every episode."
Shaun: "Yeah and make it a nightmare for him to type up!"
*Mark chuckles*
Jason: "Well, no, 'cos he'd just do it as a podcast!"
MJ: "Part Six!"
*Shaun and Mark laugh*
*PART SIX GETS WATCHED*
Photos 5 & 6: At Shaun's house.
Put together so you can see the hilarious back & forth between MJ and Jason!
MJ, Leigh, Gavin (with the sign),
MJ, Leigh, Gavin (with the sign),
Jason (with the DVD case) and Mark.
*Back in the lounge...*
MJ: "Okay I'm back in the room and that was the end of, erm -"
Shaun: "- 'Return Of Peladon'."
MJ: " 'The Monster Of Peladon'."
Shaun: " 'The Peladon Conspiracy'..."
MJ: "Did you like that?"
Shaun: "'The Peladon Brief'!!!! That's a good pun!"
Leigh: "It's not really." (I thought it was great!)
Shaun: "It's not terrible."
Mark: "It's not the worst pun. I mean you can probably come up with a better one?"
Shaun: "I honestly don't have the brain power left."
Mark: "Well you've not been drinking?"
Shaun: "I know, but it's been sucked out by watching THAT!"
*Mark chuckles*
MJ: *Going through his bag and singing* "I saw the sign..."
Leigh: *Snorting a laugh* "Are you still recording all this bo**ocks?!" *Laughs* "You rustling around in a bag. You singing Ace Of Base!"
Mark: "I wanna see ALL that typed up, by the way." *Your wish is my command, Mark!*
Leigh: "Rustle, rustle, rustle. Rustle, rustle, rustle."
MJ: "T. Davies. Did people like 'The Monster Of Peladon'?"
Leigh: "It wasn't the greatest story ever."
Mark: "I liked it. It was alright. It went along at a reasonable pace. Stuff happened. And it wasn't just people getting stuck in a room."
Shaun: "Stuff DID happen, however the first two episodes were the last Peladon story in a condensed format."
Mark: "Yep, that's fine."
Shaun: "A best of!"
Mark: "They did, like, a recap and then off they went!"
*Shaun laughs*
MJ: "So was it better than the last Peladon story, or worse?"
Shaun: "Worse."
Jason: "I think the same."
Leigh: "I think it was worse."
Shaun: "Because we'd already seen Peladon and we's already found Alpha Centuri funny!"
Jason: *Changing his mind* "I liked it better!"
Mark: "Yeah I'm with Jason on this one! I liked it better."
MJ: "You liked it better?"
Mark: "Yeah!"
Jason: "I don't know why I liked it better - I barely remember the last one, to be fair! I liked the Queen, she was nice!"
MJ: "I think I liked the twist of the last one where the Ice Warriors were being good, you know, in the end. Whereas this one it was a shame that they've gone back to form."
Jason: "Well now it's a twist again!"
MJ: "Yeah a twist again!"
Mark: "They've twisted back again."
MJ: "Twisted back! Soupy twist!"
Jason: "They reversed the polarity!"
Mark: "And also there was Engineer Face who did -"
Jason: *Laughing* "Engineer Face!??"
Mark: "I forget his name!"
Jason: "Oh, erm, Eckersley?"
Mark: "Eckersley."
MJ: "Eck-as-like, yeah!"
Mark: "Yeah. Though we all spotted from the shifty eyes in, like, the second or third episode of him being dodgy - it wasn't actually revealed until the fourth or fifth."
Jason: "No I'm glad we had a bit of a mad 'want take over the universe' kind of guy - or whatever he was."
Mark: "Yeah. And all he wanted was control of Earth - that makes sense."
Jason: *Laughing* "That's ALL he wanted!"
Mark: "That's all he wanted. That's a reasonable megalomaniac reason for doing things. And the Ice Warriors wanted to go back to the old days of, you know, raping and pillaging or something."
MJ: "Being sh*ts!"
*Mark giggles*
Jason: "It was one of those, if they'd all just sat down and talked it would have been much simpler."
MJ: "Mmm and did you like the return of Alpha Centuri again?" *Laughs*
Shaun: "I mean, I enjoyed it."
Jason: "It was certainly the highlight of the episode!"
Shaun: "Yeah."
Jason: "I mean it did ruin every dramatic scene there was!"
MJ: "Yeah."
Mark: "Or enliven!" *Laughs*
Shaun: "Yeah but I kind of think I would have been MORE bored if it hadn't ruined all of those scenes!"
Jason: "Oh! Was I entertained? YES! Did I laugh and chuckle and giggle stupidly every time she came on screen? YES!"
Mark: "He."
Jason: "He cam on screen, yes!"
Gavin: "Especially when he got knocked over and couldn't get up again!"
Jason: *Laughing* "Yes!"
Shaun: "I've said it before and I'll say it again, one of the points I'm giving it is purely for the entertainment value of Alpha Centuri!"
Jason: "Oh, right, let's put this out there: I thoroughly enjoyed watching that!"
MJ: "Mm!"
Shaun: "Yeah!"
Jason: "I didn't follow most of it, but I was thoroughly enjoying it!" *Laughs*
MJ: "My enjoyment was a bit muted, because I was looking at the time thinking 'Ohhh!'" *I had needed to go to the supermarket afterwards and was worried it was closing at 10pm - it closed at midnight so I needn't have stressed!*
Jason: "Yeah, and we've had more beer than you!"
*Laughter*
MJ: "Yeah, I had the one."
Shaun: "Scores then?"
Jason: "Seven point four five!"
Shaun: "Wow! I'm quite surprised, Jason. It's quite high."
*Mark giggles*
Jason: "It's not that high compared to the usual. I did go low on the past couple, I must admit. But I did enjoy it and I don't know why. I think maybe it was because of the penis!"
*Chuckles*
MJ: "Yeah the penis was good."
Jason: "They re-used all the costumes and the scenary."
MJ: "Mhm."
Jason: "From EVERY episode in the last two seasons!" *Laughter* "AND storyline - to be fair!" *Laughter*
MJ: "I'll give it a seven as well. I enjoyed it, I wasn't blown away but it was pretty good!"
Mark: "I'll give it eight point two."
MJ: "Oh! That's high praise! Is it because you're edging closer to that end of the Pertwee?"
Mark: "Yeah! Because his death will be fantastic!"
Jason: "You can't include THAT as part of your score! We wouldn't have nesc - well we probably would have known that at the time, but that's not the point!"
*Mark giggles*
MJ: "Oh that was the interesting thing in this story. 'Cos they COULD have ended it in this story, like he was nearly dead but, what? He put himself in a self-induced coma or something?"
Jason: "Trance."
Shaun: "Trance, yeah essentially."
Mark: "I like that they were teasing it."
MJ: Yeah."
Jason: "That's not teasing! That's just buying another ten minutes!"
*Laughter*
Shaun: "We need to pad this out!"
Leigh: "I mean they did the 'We've killed The Doctor' once, already, in that serial and then to do 'We've killed the Doctor... again!' was a bit.... yeah."
Mark: "Yeah but that was, like, a crappy cliffhanger that you expect. 'Oh no he's dead! Oh no, of course he's not dead'."
Shaun: *Laughing* "No he just stepped to the left."
Mark: "He was just sitting around for ten minutes looking dead."
MJ: "What would you give it, Leigh?"
Leigh: "Errr."
Jason: "A miss?"
*Laughter*
Leigh: "A begrudging seven!"
MJ: *Laughs* "A begrudging seven!"
Shaun: "Wow!?"
Jason: "Did you enjoy watching it?"
Leigh: "Yes, but I was drinking beer!"
Jason: "I'm including that in my seven point for five!"
Shaun: "He added three points for the beer!" *Leigh laughs* "It was all nice beer. Take a point off for them manky crisps!"
MJ: "Did we already get your - no, we haven't got your score, Shaun?"
Shaun: "No, I was -" *Indicates that he is waiting until last*
MJ: "Oh, Gav?"
Gavin: "Seven."
MJ: "Seven."
Jason: Shaun's saving it for the end!"
Shaun: "I feel really cruel now!"
Jason: "Minus twelve!"
Mark: "Well I give the crisps minus five point two!" *Laughs*
Shaun: "Hey! Those ones were alright!"
MJ: "So what's your mark, Shaun?"
Shaun: "I'm going to give it a four point zero one zero three two."
MJ: "Oh dear, you wasn't at all a fan at all of it?"
Shaun: "Again, the first two f**king episode were the last Peladon thing we've watched! Oh, I will absolutely give it this: this is what three of my marks were for. One is for Alpha Centuri. Three of my marks are purely for the fact that it did maintain the story and it never had an episode where someone was crossing a crevice or anything really boring like that."
MJ: "Oh I suppose, yeah."
Shaun: "I wasn't involved. I didn't care. I didn't find Peladon, as a concept, an interesting enough place that we should have ever have revisited. Let alone a soft reboot of the same story."
MJ: "Well I think that's been a criticism before. It's pretty much a very similar story."
Jason: "They ran out of budget! They're used to using the same army guys every week!"
MJ: "In fact why return to THAT place in particular? There's other interesting places! They could have gone back to the Web Planet!!"
*Laughter*
Jason: "They should re-use those costumes, yeah!"
Mark: "But why let Terry Nation write the same Dalek story for ten years?"
*Laughter*
Jason: "They changed the character names and the planet!"
Shaun: "Yes, maybe that's what they were trialling out! Peladon every few seasons."
MJ: "Yes, but those had Daleks in - this didn't! This could probably have been improved with Daleks." *Puts on whispering Ice Warrior voice* "And what about the Ice Warriors again?" *Normal voice* "That's probably it - you don't like the whispering voices."
Shaun: "No, I don't really have a problem with the ice Warriors whispering."
MJ: "Have you got 'The Book'?"
Jason: "I've got 'The Book'. Are we there at 'The Book' already?!"
MJ: "Yeah, because we all gave our scores!"
Mark: "He's got to go shopping!!"
Jason: "Alright, so the average score was seven? Four? Ten?"
Shaun: "Destroyed by me."
*Jason rifles around*
MJ: *Solemnly* "And Jason Smith unravels the book of Nardoo."
Jason: "Erm, stuff! Right." *Reading from 'The Book'* "'The populace of Peladon is once more in fear of Aggedor's vengeful spirit. Many people working on the story also had been employed on 'The Curse Of Peladon'!'"
Shaun: "Shock."
Jason: *Reading from 'The Book'* "'Costumes from that story were re-used, along with three Ice Warriors previously seen in 'The Ice Warriors' and 'The Seeds Of Death'."
MJ: "Ahh okay. So they were the two Troughton stories."
Jason: *Laughs before reading from 'The Book'* "'Verdict: Everything that made the previous Peladon tale SO wonderful is sadly absent from this DULL re-hash! Two out of ten'"
*Ooo's and wows from the group*
Shaun: "I was considering going lower but, I'm sorry, I was enjoying Alpha Centuri enough. So there's a point. There's a point right there."
MJ: "Wow. Two out of ten."
Shaun: *Laughing* "I don't know if you got it recorded but me and Jason, as well, really enjoyed the fact that, erm, a) you got loads of really dramatic lines coming from Alpha Centuri, which was ridiculous, and b) When she'd suddenly start talking off screen and then walk into shot!"
MJ: "Wobble into shot."
Jason: "Then she would do the little 'I need to wee' dance!"
Shaun: *Laughing* "'I need to wee' dance! Yeah!"
Mark: "He!"
Leigh: "He, yeah."
Jason: "Right, it's 'Babylon Five' and then Mister Blobby wanders in halfway through!"
*Laughter*
MJ: "Yeah!"
Shaun: *Laughing* "There was a line that was something like: 'Thank you for saving me, but you're still an awful traitor'! and just really condensed to be really quickly said! It was bizarre!"
MJ: "Well that was 'The Monster Of Peladon', join us next time for the final Pertwee ever!! Mark."
*Mark cheers*
Shaun: "The REVENGE of Peladon!"
Jason: "Well, not counting where he comes back."
MJ: "Yeah I'm not counting when he comes back - the 'Eastenders' crossover! 'Dimensions In Time'!" *Leigh laughs* "See you next time guys!"
Photo 7: At Shaun's house.
Shaun,Gavin,
Jason (with the DVD case in his feet)
and Mark (with the sign).
and Mark (with the sign).
Okay so the obvious Pertwee return to mention was 'The Five Doctors' but it was late and I needed to shop!! Anyhow that was that!
So in the meantime here are the scores again:
Gavin: 7
MJ: 7
Shaun: 4.01032
Mark: 8.2
Leigh: 7
Jason: 7.45
Which gives us an average of 6.77672 out of 10! This was less than the previous Peladon (7.92364333 out of 10) but I think the previous story was deemed to be a little better - even if it didn't have Badger-Men!
Well I must scoot - next time will be the Pertwee finale!! Which I had never seen before! I write this AFTER we had seen it and the recording I have to transcribe for that is about a bloody hour!!!! Not looking forward to that - but this Sunday we have our first Tom Baker - which should be fun!
Until then I shall return, yes I shall return....
MJ - 17/03/17
